{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/9077c08c-f50e-4ce8-95d1-03fbe7cc72d1/0f8127b9-1703-4785-95d9-c6cd49564a6f?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"StarShipEchoes 21st April 2013 Interview Jerry Pournelle Greg Benford and Larry Niven","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/6112ae920252fa86ccc84ffe/6112afa5d6c7ff001272991b.png?height=200","description":"<p><a href=\"https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?c=238253\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Support this show and it's archives - join Patreon</strong></a></p><p><br></p><p>Join me this week as I play a great interview never before played in public of a talk I did with three legends of science fiction: Jerry Pournelle, Greg Benford and Larry Niven way back on the 21st April 2013.</p>","author_name":"Tony C Smith"}