{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/8cf4cec7-5a0f-49c5-8ec9-36941b5c6b6e/dadc88ea-1d00-4963-bd48-f2a47af47487?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Expensify's David Barrett: “Any good idea has to sound bad”","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/61ba0b311a8cbef1d93cf121/61ba0b4a40076a0012722cb0.jpg?height=200","description":"<p>The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent Danny Fortson brings on David Barrett, founder of Expensify, to talk about competing for talent with unicorns (2:00), the odd reason for the company’s founding (5:15), creating a fictional expense-reporting startup (6:20), the deification of serial founders (10:30), why he promotes from within (14:15), the expenses industry (16:20),why he takes the whole company overseas every year (18:30), why he doesn’t like venture capitalists (25:40), buying out his investors (28:30), the stages of development (30:45), using a subscription model (32:00), why it took 12 years to get where they are (36:30), whether he wants to go public (38:15), the homelessness problem (41:30), the great rewards/points scam (43:45), his worst day of work (49:30), and the time when his employees got dengue fever (54:30).</p>","author_name":"The Sunday Times"}