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You're listening to the Burnt Toast Podcast! I'm Virginia Sole-Smith and today my conversation is with health teacher and author Christopher Pepper.

Christopher is joining me to talk about the Cornell 7 case and why too many boys are not learning about bodies, consent and control.

This is a hard conversation. Content warning if any of that sounds not helpful to you today, but it is an important one, and Christopher has lots of strategies and scripts to help.

On Indulgence Gospel:

Corinne and I will be talking about what men aren't doing—specifically why they aren't posting more about the Cornell 7 case online.

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Meet today's guest!

Christopher Pepper is an award-winning health teacher whose lesson plans are used in schools around the globe. He’s been an educator for more than two decades, and currently teaches 9th grade health education in Los Altos, California. 

He is the co-author of the bestselling book Talk to Your Boys: 16 Conversations to Help Tweens and Teens Grow into Confident, Caring Young Men, and also writes the popular newsletter Teen Health Today.

I first met Christopher while reporting Fat Talk. He's quoted frequently in my chapter on diet culture in schools. We are going to talk about diet culture today, and specifically how diet culture trends like looksmaxxing and bodybuilding are impacting boys.

BUTTER & LINKS

Virginia's Butter: Joining your school's PTA and serving on their equity, diversity, and inclusion committee.

Christopher's Butter: Joining a men's group, like Ever Forward Club or Next Gen Men.

Talk to Your Boys: 16 Conversations to Help Tweens and Teens Grow into Confident, Caring Young Men by Christopher Pepper, Joanna Schroeder

Christopher Pepper: Channel Your Rage Into Action Against Rape (Substack)

NYT: \"Racists Are Recruiting: Watch Your White Sons\" by Joanna Schroeder

Kate Manne: They Didn’t Want Consent (Substack)

https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/how-do-we-raise-173458592

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EPISODE CREDITS

Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.

Producer: Kim Baldwin.

Logo design: Deanna Lowe.

Theme Song: Farideh.

Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku

Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron

Follow us on social!

Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.

Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies.

Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders.

Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!

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