{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/6ac3c2599610f265be0022ef/6ac3c4e66c844f245f845c0f?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"ULTRA ORTHODOX: The Unexpected Price of Leaving with 10 Children","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/6ac3c2599610f265be0022ef/7a96857b8b0cfe1bf919bba8f1a735a1.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>After decades of suffering in silence and submission in the Hasidic community with 10 children, Beatrice carefully plotted her escape. With some of her children already adults, she snuck out with the youngest 4 who were still very young. The community and older children immediately turned on her and tried to take the youngest kids away in court. After years of custody battles, she kept access to her kids, but the court ordered one son stay in a Hasidic school which gave him no secular education. Beatrice sued the NYC for not regulating the religious Hasidic schools and won! This is how she deconstructed her ideology.</p>\n<p><br></p>\n<p><a href=\"https://youtu.be/6MXpJm_aRoU\" target=\"_blank\"><u>Click here to watch on YouTube</u></a></p>\n<p><br></p>\n<p>Watch pt 1 here:  <a href=\"https://youtu.be/LGXNrG7kIec?si=fnWrmXDKdLKSy3ZF\" target=\"_blank\">https://youtu.be/LGXNrG7kIec?si=fnWrmXDKdLKSy3ZF</a></p>\n<p><br></p>\n<p>Resources for help leaving Orthodox communities </p>\n<p>Footsteps <a href=\"https://www.footstepsorg.org/\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.footstepsorg.org/</a></p>\n<p>Rights and Religion Forum <a href=\"https://rarforum.org/\" target=\"_blank\">https://rarforum.org/</a></p>\n<p>Marlene Winell Journey Free- Recover From Toxic Religions <a href=\"https://www.journeyfree.org/\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.journeyfree.org/</a></p>\n<p><br></p>\n<p>Find and support Beatrice!</p>\n<p>Linktree:<a href=\"https://linktr.ee/bweber\" target=\"_blank\"> https://linktr.ee/bweber</a></p>\n<p>Website: <a href=\"https://beatriceweber.com/about/\" target=\"_blank\"><u>https://beatriceweber.com/about/</u></a></p>\n<p><br></p>\n<p>We want to meet you in real life!  Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION!  <a href=\"https://trovatrip.com/trip/north-america/mexico/mexico-with-shelise-sola-oct-2025\" target=\"_blank\"><u>Click here to go to the official booking page</u></a></p>\n<p><br></p>\n<p>Subscribe to our<a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/@CultstoConsciousnessClip\" target=\"_blank\"><u> C2C \"CLIPS\" Channel!</u></a></p>\n<p><br></p>\n<p>Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.</p>\n<p><br></p>\n<p><a href=\"https://cults-to-consciousness-shop.fourthwall.com/en-usd\" target=\"_blank\"><u>Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!</u></a></p>\n<p><br></p>\n<p>Patreon <a href=\"https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness\" target=\"_blank\"><u>https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness</u></a></p>\n<p><br></p>\n<p>Venmo @sheliseann</p>\n<p><br></p>\n<p>Find us on Social media!</p>\n<p>Instagram <a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/cultstoconsciousness\" target=\"_blank\"><u>@cultstoconsciousness</u></a> </p>\n<p>Host Instagram <a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/sheliseann/\" target=\"_blank\"><u>@sheliseann </u></a></p>\n<p>Co Producer / Host <a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.rosales_\" target=\"_blank\"><u>@jonathan.rosales_ </u></a></p>\n<p>TikTok <a href=\"http://cults.to.consciousness\" target=\"_blank\"><u>@cults.to.consciousness </u></a></p>\n<p>Twitter <a href=\"https://twitter.com/cultstocon\" target=\"_blank\"><u>@cultstocon</u></a> </p>\n<p><br></p>\n<p>**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**</p>\n<p><br></p>\n<p>Chapter Marks</p>\n<p>00:00:00 Intro</p>\n<p>00:03:47 Part 1 recap</p>\n<p>00:05:33 Getting the court system involved for protection from her ex-husband and even chiIdren</p>\n<p>00:10:04 The difficulties of having to leave some chiIdren behind</p>\n<p>00:11:31 Beatrice makes a big mistake in court</p>\n<p>00:16:21 How Chavie's case impacted others and how Beatrice regained custody</p>\n<p>00:19:19 Beatrice can't ignore the corruption any longer and decides to heal from it</p>\n<p>00:20:50 It's never really \"just hair\"</p>\n<p>00:21:33 The continuous journey of healing</p>\n<p>00:22:57 Tackling the lack of education in the Hasidic community</p>\n<p>00:24:27 Discrepancies in what the courts are saying about Beatrice's case</p>\n<p>00:25:33 The school refuses to accept Beatrice's son again</p>\n<p>00:27:38 How Beatrice's case changed the school system</p>\n<p>00:29:58 Beatrice's children's varying reactions to their mother not just leaving the community, but also making large scale change</p>\n<p>00:31:35 Has Beatrice ever talked to her older chiIdren about what happened?</p>\n<p>00:33:20 Why it's sometimes easier for people stay in their oppressive communities</p>\n<p>00:35:21 What made Beatrice leave the Hasidic community altogether?</p>\n<p>00:38:22 TW: ED</p>\n<p>00:40:30 How others who have left high demand religions helped Beatrice heal</p>\n<p>00:45:15 How people in the Hasidic community use Beatrice's story to perpetuate harmful ideologies</p>\n<p>00:46:39 Things Beatrice misses from being in the community</p>\n<p>00:50:05 Losing your community for your freedom</p>\n<p>00:52:22 What makes Beatrice feel fulfilled?</p>\n<p>00:54:32 Huffington Post article sneak peek</p>\n<p>00:58:38 Exploring yourself as you are, not as someone has told you to be</p>\n<p>01:01:20 Resources for leaving high demand religious groups</p>\n<p>01:05:00 Linda, listen</p>\n<p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href=\"https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices\" target=\"_blank\">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p><p>See Privacy Policy at <a href=\"https://art19.com/privacy\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href=\"https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.</p>","author_name":"Shelise Ann Sola, Jonathan C Rosales"}