Investigative journalist, Shibani Mahtani reveals the darker secrets from inside Cambodia's scam compounds, where 200,000 trafficked workers were freed this year. She traces the industry's hierarchy, the Ugandan worker who escaped and the laundered money flowing back through Singapore's banks.
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(00:00) Intro
(01:31) What Is NPR, and Why It's a Big Deal
(02:22) Cambodia's Scam Centers Take Center Stage
(04:20) The Crackdown Releases 200,000 People
(04:51) Three Years Tracking the Scam Economy
(07:37) How Big Is a Scam Compound, Really?
(08:40) Inside the Corporate Structure of a Scam Company
(12:25) How Recruitment Works, From Managers to Victims
(13:45) One Worker's Journey From Uganda
(15:47) From Chinese Gambling Sites to a Global Scam Empire
(16:27) Nightmare Capitalism: Life Inside the Compound
(17:41) The Gong: Celebrating a Successful Scam
(18:32) Victim or Perpetrator? The Blurry Line
(20:35) What Finally Triggered the Crackdown
(22:02) How 200,000 People Ended Up on the Streets
(22:46) How Can a Government Be So Complicit?
(25:38) Her First Time in a Scam Compound (2024)
(27:13) The Scam Economy's Ordinary Vendors and Drivers
(28:42) Does This Shake Her Faith in Humanity?
(29:56) Is This Just \"Robbing the Rich\"?
(32:33) Was She Ever Afraid to Report This Story?
(33:56) Where Journalism Ends and Activism Begins
(35:57) Is Singapore More Tied to This Than We Think?
(39:04) Why the Syndicates Trusted Singaporeans
(41:46) What Dirty Money Really Does to Singapore
(43:50) Can You Trust a Singaporean PR Man?
(48:18) Would Harsher Punishment Actually Help?
(51:32) What Singapore's Banking Laws Get Wrong
(52:45) Is She Ever Scared Doing This Work?
(55:11) How Journalism Has Changed Under Trump
(57:27) Catching the Podcasting Bug
(58:54) What's Next: Sri Lanka, East Timor, and Sextortion
(59:34) Where AI Fits Into the Scam Industry
(1:01:55) Where to Find Shibani's Work
(1:02:52) One Shiok Thing
(1:09:32) Post-Interview Reflections
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