{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/6a31164c2603763bbffb56e3/6a59f77662e50b14bd898883?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"#841: Quitting Banking For Theatre & Why S’pore Isn’t Being Honest About Race | Shaza Ishak","description":"<p>Teater Ekamatra’s Artistic Director, Shaza Ishak, restages <em>Charged</em>, its 2010 play on racism in the SAF, at Funan from 23rd July till 2nd August. Ishak recounts a lawyer who denied racism exists in Singapore, then made his only Indian colleague answer for it in front of the team, plus her academic study which revealed that victims of racism are trained to minimise their own experiences.</p><p><br></p><p>🔔 Enjoyed this one? Please 𝗦𝗨𝗕𝗦𝗖𝗥𝗜𝗕𝗘 to the channel so you don't miss our latest episodes. Every subscriber helps us grow, open doors to new guests, stories, formats or ideas!</p><p><br></p><p>𝗔𝗱𝗱𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗟𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀</p><p><a href=\"https://ekamatra.org.sg/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Teater Ekamatra | Website</a></p><p><a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/teaterekamatra/?hl=en\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Teater Ekamatra | Instagram</a></p><p><a href=\"https://bookmyshow.sg/en/events/charged-by-teater-ekamatra/CHARGEDD\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">CHARGED by Teater Ekamatra | Ticket</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Folklory</strong></p><p>What do you give the person who has everything? A Folklory! Their memories, their stories, exactly the way they said it, pressed into something you can listen to forever.</p><p><br></p><p>Ready to give the unforgettable? Get started at: <a href=\"https://www.folklory.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Folklory.com</a></p><p><br></p><p>𝗢𝗻𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗼𝗸 𝗧𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴</p><ul><li>Haresh: <a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn1ODEly3NQ\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Kane loses voice | FIFA World Cup 2026</a></li><li>Terence: <a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtBFkFZoaII\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Why The Same Brand Is On The Bottom of Every Boot</a></li><li>Shaza Ishak: <a href=\"https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/56603302-complaint\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Complaint! by Sara Ahmed</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>(00:00) Intro</p><p>(01:56) Restaging Charged 15 Years Later</p><p>(03:37) What Charged Is About: Race and Racism in the Army</p><p>(04:17) Why Now Is the Right Time for Charged</p><p>(07:16) Ethnic Minority Theatre and Inclusive Storytelling</p><p>(07:57) How Teater Ekamatra Curates Its Stories</p><p>(09:35) Shaza's Early Encounters With Racism</p><p>(13:12) Finding a Voice Through Theatre</p><p>(14:10) Art as Expression vs Activism</p><p>(16:22) Media as a Career: Family and Social Pressure</p><p>(18:05) Choosing Theatre Over Corporate Finance</p><p>(21:33) What's Changed Since Charged First Staged</p><p>(22:45) The Lawyer Who Denied Racism Exists in Singapore</p><p>(26:02) Race, Class, and Why \"Comfort\" Matters</p><p>(27:16) Social Media, Polarization, and Being Vocal About Race</p><p>(30:36) Playing Devil's Advocate on Casual Racism</p><p>(31:06) Is Singaporean Identity Being Diluted?</p><p>(33:48) Rethinking Integration and Multiculturalism</p><p>(37:11) Debating Whether Singapore Needs CMIO</p><p>(39:59) Ethnic Housing Quotas and Their Trade-offs</p><p>(41:19) Race in National Service</p><p>(45:23) Firsthand Experiences of Racism in NS</p><p>(49:49) Ethnic Minorities as Comic Relief in Media</p><p>(51:29) Becoming the \"Difficult Person\" Who Calls Out Racism</p><p>(52:51) Is Charged Still Relevant 15 Years On?</p><p>(55:13) Race, Foreigners, and a More Complicated Conversation</p><p>(58:48) Who Decides What's Tone-Deaf?</p><p>(1:00:11) What Does a Productive Conversation Look Like?</p><p>(1:02:51) Racial Harmony Day (Satire)</p><p>(1:03:04) Looking at Other Multiracial Societies</p><p>(1:05:35) Rejecting the Idea of Chinese Privilege</p><p>(1:10:00) Can Racism Be Solved? Radical Optimism</p><p>(1:13:43) Experiencing Racism Abroad vs at Home</p><p>(1:16:28) Charged's Hoped-For Impact and Future Reruns</p><p>(1:19:21) Marketing Charged: Bring a Racist Friend</p><p>(1:20:04) Where to Watch Charged and Follow Shaza</p><p>(1:21:05) One Shiok Thing</p><p>(1:25:23) Post-Interview Reflections</p><p><br></p><p>𝗦𝘂𝗯𝘀𝗰𝗿𝗶𝗯𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘄𝗲𝗲𝗸𝗹𝘆 𝗻𝗲𝘄𝘀𝗹𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿 – \"𝗬𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗟𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗹𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝘁” <a href=\"https://yahlahbut.short.gy/subscribe\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://yahlahbut.short.gy/subscribe</a></p><p>Get a roundup of our One Shiok Things &amp; first dibs on our latest launches delivered straight to your inbox!</p><p><br></p><p>𝗙𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝘂𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘀𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹𝘀</p><p>ᴛɪᴋᴛᴏᴋ <a href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/@yahlahbut\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.tiktok.com/@yahlahbut</a></p><p>ɪɴꜱᴛᴀɢʀᴀᴍ <a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/yahlahbut\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.instagram.com/yahlahbut</a></p><p>ꜰᴀᴄᴇʙᴏᴏᴋ <a href=\"https://www.facebook.com/yahlahbutpod\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.facebook.com/yahlahbutpod</a></p><p><br></p><p>𝗝𝗼𝗶𝗻 𝗢𝘂𝗿 𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗺𝘂𝗻𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗖𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗻𝗲𝗹𝘀</p><p>ʀᴇᴅᴅɪᴛ <a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/YahLahBut/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.reddit.com/r/YahLahBut/</a></p><p>ᴛᴇʟᴇɢʀᴀᴍ <a href=\"https://t.me/yahlahbutpodcast\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://t.me/yahlahbutpodcast</a></p><p><br></p><p>𝗪𝗼𝗿𝗸 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘂𝘀!</p><p>Drop us an email at <a href=\"mailto:contact@ministryoffunny.com\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">contact@ministryoffunny.com</a>! 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