{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/6a2c4836252d86e84648db56/6a9a4825809ae7c2f490d9bd?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"#10 Kirsten King: Unlikable Heroines, Downward Spirals, and the Perils of Modern Dating","description":"<h1>#10 Kirsten King: Unlikable Heroines, Downward Spirals, and the Perils of Modern Dating</h1><p><br></p><p>The Everygirl Book Club interviews Kirsten King, author of the summer bonus pick <em>A Good Person</em>, about Lillian’s provocative downward spiral after the death of her situationship, Henry. King discusses embracing polarized reactions to an intentionally unlikable protagonist, her current reads and recommendations for “messy women” books, and how her background in journalism and screenwriting (including using Save the Cat) shaped her debut novel while feeling more creatively exposed than in collaborative film work. She explains writing the book during the 2023 WGA strike, building side characters to reveal Lillian’s flawed POV, and choosing not to give Lillian redemption. The conversation covers modern dating, virtue signaling, therapy-speak, female friendship breakups, LA spirituality, and the Daisy Edgar-Jones/Working Title adaptation. King also previews a 2027 dark-comedy novel about a breakup, AI chatbot companionship, and a self-help podcaster chatbot.</p><p><br></p><p>01:26 Unlikable Heroine Talk</p><p>03:04 Read Receipts</p><p>07:10 BuzzFeed Millennial Era</p><p>09:02 From Screen To Novel</p><p>12:12 Handling Criticism</p><p>16:56 Creating Lillian</p><p>28:49 Morally Gray Influences</p><p>36:44 Reader Prescriptions</p><p>46:35 Building Side Characters</p><p>48:47 Etsy Witch Culture</p><p>52:11 Modern Dating Morality</p><p>55:05 Adaptation Update</p><p>56:38 Kirsten's Next Book</p><p>59:50 Ranking Morally Grey Characters</p><p>01:01:51 LITigation</p><p><br></p><h2>Books Mentioned</h2><p><em>A Good Person</em> by Kirsten King</p><p><em>I Who Have Never Known Men</em> by Jacqueline Harpman</p><p><em>200 Monas</em> by Jan Saenz</p><p><em>She's a Lamb</em> by Meredith Hambrook</p><p><em>Salomé</em> by Leslie Baird</p><p><em>Sky Daddy</em> by Kate Folk</p><p><em>Famesick</em> by Lena Dunham</p><p><em>Fruit Fly</em> by Josh Silver</p><p><em>Gone Girl</em> by Gillian Flynn</p><p><em>Bad Marie</em> by Marcy Dermansky</p><p><em>The Guest</em> by Emma Cline</p><p><em>Best Offer Wins</em> by Marisa Kashino</p><p><em>Yellowface</em> by R. F. Kuang</p><p><em>Big Swiss</em> by Jen Beagin</p><p><em>My Brilliant Friend</em> by Elena Ferrante</p><p><em>Conversations with Friends</em> by Sally Rooney</p><p><em>Beautiful World, Where Are You?</em> by Sally Rooney</p><p><em>Empire of AI</em> by Karen Hao</p><p><br></p><h2>Join The Everygirl Book Club meetings</h2><p><strong>September 24: It’s Different This Time</strong></p><ul><li><a href=\"https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-everygirl-book-club-september-discussion-and-author-qa-tickets-1997156302262\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">RSVP here</a></li><li>Use code <a href=\"https://bookshop.org/a/123242/9798217093656\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">‘EGSept26’ for 15% off on Bookshop.org</a></li><li>Use code <a href=\"https://www.awin1.com/cread.php?awinmid=25361&amp;awinaffid=1957609&amp;ued=https%3A%2F%2Flibro.fm%2Faudiobooks%2F9798217173662\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">‘TEGBookClub’ for 30% off on Libro.fm</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Enjoy the episode? Like and follow The Everygirl Book Club Podcast, leave a rating and review, and share the episode with a fellow reader. Then, join the conversation on Instagram<a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/theeverygirlbookclub/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> @theeverygirlbookclub</a> for monthly book picks, book recommendations, reading challenges, and more.<a href=\"https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd5zYHY6Y11qaxoO5HvrV1TDHXW4rHxps3_N1LljK6Ne6OUdA/viewform?usp=dialog\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> Fill out this form</a> to submit your own reader prescriptions or request specific discussion topics.</p><p><br></p>","author_name":"The Everygirl Book Club"}