{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/6a13e8d86ee822cbfb667830/6a90fbcf4fc9f31f83b8a3d9?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"On Building an Empire, Walking Away, and Finding What Really Matters | Lisa Messenger","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/6a13e8d86ee822cbfb667830/1787888383848-73b83994-1a8d-42bb-a691-6e22575c3383.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Lisa Messenger is one of Australia's most recognisable entrepreneurs, best known for building The Collective Hub into a global media brand that inspired millions of people to think differently about business, creativity and taking risks.</p><p><br></p><p>But Lisa has never been someone to stand still. She has spent her career reinventing herself, and today that reinvention looks a little different. The Collective Hub has evolved into a digital community and app, she's become a passionate advocate for helping people embrace AI in practical ways, and she's continuing to challenge what modern entrepreneurship can look like. She's also, in her own words, living on a farm with 29 chickens, a three-year-old, and another baby on the way.</p><p><br></p><p>In this warm and wide-ranging conversation, Jules and Lisa talk about reinvention, motherhood, identity, AI and what it really means to build a life that evolves as you do. Lisa opens up with remarkable honesty about the rise and the reality of The Collective Hub, growing too fast, losing control, and the brave decision to let go of the thing everyone knew her for. She and Jules go deep on the identity question that follows, who are you when the thing that defined you falls away, and how you learn to hold your achievements a little more loosely.</p><p><br></p><p>This is an uplifting, honest and inspiring conversation about the courage to keep becoming who you're meant to be. Pour yourself a cup of tea and settle in.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Connect with Lisa Messenger and The Collective Hub:</strong></p><p>Website: <a href=\"https://collectivehub.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://collectivehub.com/</a></p><p>Instagram: <a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/lisamessenger/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.instagram.com/lisamessenger/</a></p><p>The Collective Hub: <a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/collectivehub/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.instagram.com/collectivehub/</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><h3>CHAPTERS</h3><p>00:00 — Introducing Lisa Messenger</p><p>01:14 — Setting the Intention: Anything Is Possible</p><p>01:33 — The Pinup Girl for Doing It Anyway</p><p>02:33 — Farm Life, 29 Chickens and a Baby on the Way</p><p>02:47 — Why She Says No More Than She Says Yes</p><p>05:15 — The Queen of Reinvention</p><p>06:22 — Forty Books and a Life of Curiosity</p><p>07:52 — Writing Fiction: The Story of Jess and Justin</p><p>08:15 — What's Next: The New Book, Matchstick</p><p>11:07 — Where It Began: The Collective Hub Magazine</p><p>14:50 — Growing Too Fast and Losing Control</p><p>15:21 — The Systems and Processes She Never Had</p><p>19:27 — The Brave Decision to Let It Go</p><p>22:13 — Who Am I With All of That Stripped Away?</p><p>23:05 — Attaching Your Identity to the Thing You Built</p><p>25:26 — When Fewer People Want a Piece of You</p><p>27:44 — We Meet People at Different Stages of Their Lives</p><p>32:43 — The Collective Hub Reborn as a Community and App</p><p>34:42 — Live Sessions, AI Tools and a New Digital Age</p><p>37:55 — From Technologically Inept to AI Advocate</p><p>41:04 — Model the Greats: How She Teaches AI</p><p>42:53 — Her Simple Secret: Just Keep Asking</p><p>45:20 — Getting Productive and Protecting Her Time</p><p>46:41 — The Fertility Journey: Eight Years and 18 Rounds of IVF</p><p>47:57 — Surrogacy and Welcoming a Second Baby</p><p>48:55 — The Sweetest Question From Her Son</p><p>51:57 — Why Success Means Less to Her Now</p><p>53:45 — What She Wishes More Women Knew Before Chasing Success</p><p>54:46 — Reinventing Is Fun</p><p>55:19 — Barefoot, Giggling and Truly Happy</p><p>56:16 — Wrapping Up Tea with Jules</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Connect with Jules</strong></p><ul><li><a href=\"https://julessebastian.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Get Jules' Newsletter</a></li><li><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/@julessebastian\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Watch Tea with Jules on YouTube</a></li><li><a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/tea_with_jules/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Follow Tea with Jules on Instagram</a></li><li><a href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/@julessebastian\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Follow Jules on TikTok</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Credits</strong></p><p>Produced by <a href=\"https://www.meentertainment.com.au/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">ME Entertainment</a></p><p>Producers: <a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/lisajohnston_/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">@lisajohnston_</a>, <a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/julessebastian/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">@julessebastian</a>, <a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/Eggoau/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">@Eggoau</a></p><p>Sound Engineer, Video, Editor &amp; Music: Mathew Eggleston – <a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/Eggoau/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">@Eggoau</a></p>","author_name":"Jules Sebastian"}