{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/6a0d01180797376c6e3a3de3/6aab460dbf7eb386d3d2ae40?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Inter-season special: Dame Juliet Gerrard interview","description":"<p>The countdown to new Long Story Short eps continues, but in the meantime Eugene and Adam caught up with Dame Juliet Gerrard, former chief science adviser to PM Jacinda Ardern (as well as two other PMs called Chris).&nbsp;We first met Dame Juliet when doing interviews for the podcast Quarantine Nation, about NZ’s experience of the Covid pandemic. She was a great interview subject back then, so when we heard she’d written a whole <em>book</em> about her time advising the government on matters scientific, we had to read it, and then after reading it we had to talk to her.&nbsp;Luckily, we hit record, so now you can listen to that conversation.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Links to stuff in the episode</strong></p><p>- Dame Juliet’s book: <a href=\"https://aucklanduniversitypress.co.nz/front-row-seat/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://aucklanduniversitypress.co.nz/front-row-seat/</a></p><p>- Stuck: How Vaccine Rumours Start and Why They Don’t Go Away: <a href=\"http://global.oup.com/academic/product/stuck-9780190077242\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">global.oup.com/academic/product/stuck-9780190077242</a></p><p>- You Are Here: A Field Guide for Navigating Polarized Speech, Conspiracy Theories, and Our Polluted Media Landscape: <a href=\"https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262361378/you-are-here/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262361378/you-are-here/</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Other Long Story Short Links</strong></p><p>Sign up for our free newsletter: <a href=\"https://lss-newsletter.netlify.app/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://lss-newsletter.netlify.app/</a></p><p>Follow us on Instagram: <a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/lsspodcastnz/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">@lsspodcastnz</a></p><p>Become a supporter: <a href=\"http://lsspodcast.com\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">lsspodcast.com</a></p><p><br></p>","author_name":"Adam Dudding & Eugene Bingham"}