Growing up, Penny aspired to be on the stage. After many circuitous routes, she found her way into cyber security and felt right at home. In this episode, Penny talks about how the psychological aspects of cyber are just as important as the technical, and why all parents should take parental leave. And in a week where we heard the Grace Hopper Celebration had been cancelled, our introduction is about the conference's co-founder, Anita Borg.
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