{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/6a07bc0abae3d7f66ffeeb94/6a30de63685069f99f3793eb?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Esther Barthel: The specialist generalist","description":"<p>A wide-ranging chat with <a href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/ebarthel/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Esther Barthel</a> about her fascination with tech which took her through the whole network stack, specialisations that make the most of her generalist background, experiments with AI, and why a shared passion for tech is the ultimate inclusivity. Also meet out pioneering IT Grrrl of the day:<strong> </strong><a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Grace Hopper - Wikipedia</a></p>","author_name":"Carol Wapshere"}