{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/6a067d43382d6c4030eaad5c/6a067d6bd98ee73f63ee9ce9?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"\"Maturity before numbers\" says US megachurch pastor Randy Pope","description":"<p>Randy Pope, lead pastor of <a href='https://www.perimeter.org/'>Atlanta&apos;s Perimeter Church</a> for 42 years, joins us this week, as he transitions out of the senior leadership role. <br/><br/>Perimeter has been responsible for over forty church plants since 1977.<br/><br/>He joins us to talk ministry strategy, his realisation that he needed to focus on spiritual maturity, rather than growth, and a thorn in the flesh for many senior pastors, &apos;Spiritual Pride.&apos;</p><p><a rel=\"payment\" href=\"https://village.churchsuite.com/donate/fund/iilirbpd\">Support the show</a></p>","author_name":"Dominic Steele"}