{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/69e6c9ae6e5b90839aff7534/6ad975e944b8628ef008c330?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Best Of: Letting Kids Lead with Elan Lee & Dr. Kathy Hirsh-Pasek","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/69e6c9ae6e5b90839aff7534/1792637135834-dc4c2efd-bf94-442a-bd38-473801f3b1e0.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>What happens when you stop just playing with your kids and start letting them lead?</p><p><br></p><p>This best-of brings back two Season 2 conversations. Game designer Elan Lee, co-creator of Exploding Kittens, tells Melissa and Esther how a stack of boring preschool board games ended with his four-year-old daughter saying &quot;let&#39;s fix them,&quot; and how the games they built together at his crafting table, Hurry Up Chicken Butt among them, ended up on store shelves. He shares the rules they designed by: the parent has to have fun too, kids have to be able to win without being let win, and there can be a winner but no losers.</p><p><br></p><p>Then developmental psychologist Dr. Kathy Hirsh-Pasek shares the small tricks that turned the hardest parts of the day into play. She also talks about her work on playful learning landscapes: hopscotch at bus stops, I-spy murals in hospital waiting rooms, and why a bench doesn&#39;t have to just be a bench.</p><p>From the full episodes <em>How Boredom Led to a Global Line of Family Games with Elan Lee</em> and <em>Why Play Is Key for Child Development with Dr. Kathy Hirsh-Pasek</em>.</p><p><br></p><p>Learn more about Dr. Kathy&#39;s work:</p><p><strong><a href=\"https://kathyhirshpasek.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://kathyhirshpasek.com/</a></strong></p><p><br></p><p>Learn more about Elan Lee:</p><p><strong><a href=\"https://www.elanlee.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.elanlee.com/</a></strong></p>","author_name":"Pok Pok"}