In Episode 3 of Turning World, Jon Egan and Keith Hitchman are joined by Professor Paul Garner for an in-depth conversation on long Covid, chronic fatigue, chronic pain and the evolving science of mind-body medicine.
As both a researcher and patient advocate, Paul offers insight into the scientific, social and personal dimensions of chronic illness — from predictive coding and psychosomatic symptoms to fear, avoidance and pathways to recovery.
Topics include:
• Long Covid and post-Covid illness
• Chronic fatigue syndrome and ME/CFS
• Predictive coding and neuroscience
• Mind-body approaches to healing
• Psychosomatic illness and pain
• Fear, stress and trauma
• NHS and systemic healthcare failures
• Community support and local resilience
Guest bio:
Professor Paul Garner is professor emeritus at Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine, member of the Oslo Chronic Fatigue Network, contributor to Fatigue Science Talks, and advocate for improved understanding of chronic fatigue and post-viral conditions.
Paul Garner, professor emeritus, Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine
And member of the Oslo Chronic Fatigue Network
Links:
Raelan Agle interview on the post covid condition (Nov 2025)
Failed by the NHS on chronic fatigue illness (Oct 2025)
Patients with severe ME/CFS (May 2025)
Long covid in Manchester Evening News (March 2025)
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About Turning World:
Turning World is hosted by Jon Egan and Keith Hitchman and explores politics, culture, faith and public life in an age of uncertainty and transformation.
Produced by Opus Media.
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