These conversations sit somewhere around the edges of the album.
They’re about mental health, masculinity, and the stuff that sits underneath both - shame, silence, identity, all of it.
The record started with a song called “Talk,” about how often we don’t say what’s actually going on.
These are attempts to do that.
This first conversation is with Alain de Botton
Content warning: this episode includes discussions of suicide and drug use.
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