Dave Wood is a pioneer of the smartphone industry, former senior executive at PPsion and Symbian and Chair of London Futurists. Having predicted the smartphone revolution in the 1990s, he now maps out the next radical phase of human evolution - from the reversal of biological aging to artificial superabundance.
Moving away from sensationalised doomsday narratives, Dave breaks down why humanity is approaching the end of "normal" unaugmented existence and how technological breakthroughs in the coming decades will make biological death optional.
We discuss:
• Why this is likely the last decade of "normal" unaugmented human beings.
• How early smartphone pioneers accurately predicted large touchscreens but missed social media addiction.
• The concept of "Longevity Escape Velocity" and why biological death can be abolished.
• Why people are psychologically terrified of contemplating the end of aging.
• How humans will spend decades inside vibrant, simulated digital worlds. The reality of AI agents breaking out across the internet and the need for chip-level guardrails.
• How "Sustainable Superabundance" could make energy, health, and basic necessities too cheap to meter.
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 - The Last Generation Of Normal Humans
00:01:56 - Building The First Smartphone
00:05:23 - Nobody Will Carry A Large Device
00:06:55 - The Risks We Actually Worried About
00:10:35 - Did We Fail The Phone Test?
00:14:34 - The Anxious Generation
00:18:03 - You Have To Use The Steering Wheel
00:22:34 - Monitoring Built Into The Chips
00:24:21 - Small Risks, Bigger Risks, Biggest Risks
00:29:23 - We Killed Them To Build A House
00:31:11 - They Knew It Was A Simulation
00:32:38 - What Happens When AI Gets A Body
00:33:46 - The Cult That Released Sarin Gas
00:37:33 - Terminator, Ready Player One Or Matrix?
00:39:12 - If This Is A Simulation, They're Evil
00:43:44 - Living As Long As You Want To
00:47:36 - Longevity Escape Velocity
00:49:42 - A Thousand Years Old, Looking 22
00:53:57 - What The Singularity Actually Means
01:03:04 - Sustainable Superabundance
01:12:22 - We Need A House Of AI
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CONTACT PETE
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CONNECT WITH DAVID WOOD
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FILMED BY CURTIS TAYLOR
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EDITED BY CONOR MCCORMACK
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