Amy Webb joins me to discuss why artificial intelligence is not just another technology shift, but a civilisation-level reordering of work, power, wealth, biology and society.
Amy explains why the real AI question is not simply which jobs disappear, but which people become vulnerable. We discuss thinkers vs think-nots, why human capital may stop being the main driver of productivity and wealth, how GDP and unemployment could rise together, and why the economy may thrive while having less use for human labour.
We also get into China’s AI strategy, why governments are failing to plan for the transition, whether AI companies owe people for the data and knowledge they have absorbed, Amy’s idea of contribution credit, the limits of UBI, the future of synthetic biology and longevity, and why the current structures of regulation, politics and economics no longer make sense for the world we are entering.
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 - The Economy May Not Need You
00:01:13 - Humanity-Scale Reordering
00:04:25 - Show Us Receipts
00:07:10 - Peter’s AI Assistant
00:08:00 - Three Years In Six Weeks
00:08:46 - AI Is Not One Technology
00:12:00 - Self-Improving Technology
00:13:30 - Thinkers And Think-Nots
00:16:44 - How To Become A Thinker
00:21:23 - Failed Transition Planning
00:23:58 - China’s AI Strategy
00:28:31 - What Happens Without Labour?
00:30:56 - Lights Out Industrialism
00:33:47 - AI Collapsing The Pyramid
00:35:12 - We Are Gen T
00:41:39 - Contribution Credit
00:52:43 - Should AI Be Regulated?
00:58:52 - What Futurists Actually Do
01:03:54 - AI And Biology
01:30:16 - Regulation Can’t Keep Up
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CONTACT PETE
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CONNECT WITH AMY WEBB
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EDITED BY CONOR MCCORMACK
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