{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/699d84ebe58ea91138795ae1/69e1eb0ba0cdd3989c96f977?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"S01 EP02: Jo Living","description":"<p>What if the key to navigating work, parenting, and pressure… was thinking more like a poker player?</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode of the Modern Load Podcast (MOLO), host Sophie Bruce is joined by Jo Living — entrepreneur, former investment banker, and founder of Aces High — to explore how risk, decision-making, and confidence show up in both business and family life.</p><p><br></p><p>From growing up in a high-achieving household to building and exiting a startup, Jo shares how her relationship with money, ambition, and independence has evolved — and how poker strategy became an unexpected lens for navigating high-stakes moments at work and at home.</p><p><br></p><p>This is a conversation about ownership, negotiation, and why trying to “do it all” might be the wrong game to play.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>What we cover:</strong></p><ul><li>Why the “modern load” is a systemic problem — not a personal failure</li><li>How childhood shapes ambition, money mindset, and independence</li><li>The reality of high-performance careers alongside parenting</li><li>Why resentment builds in relationships — and how to fix it</li><li>“Divide and conquer” vs trying to do everything together</li><li>What poker teaches us about risk, confidence, and decision-making</li><li>Why women hesitate to “play the hand” they’ve been dealt</li><li>The pressure of being a high-achieving parent (and letting go of perfection)</li><li>How to practically split the mental load in a relationship</li><li>The role of tech, distraction, and always-on expectations</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Chapters:</strong></p><p>00:00 – Poker, parenting, and the modern load</p><p>01:01 – Meet Jo Living: entrepreneur, poker strategist, founder</p><p>02:30 – Growing up in a high-achieving family</p><p>04:00 – Financial shifts and early independence</p><p>05:03 – Investment banking and chasing money</p><p>05:42 – Walking away and becoming an entrepreneur</p><p>08:28 – Building and exiting a startup</p><p>09:40 – Cards, strategy, and discovering poker</p><p>12:12 – Winning her first poker tournament</p><p>13:26 – From poker table to business strategy</p><p>14:44 – Parenting, flexibility, and “divide &amp; conquer”</p><p>16:09 – Burnout, self-care, and resetting under pressure</p><p>17:01 – Resentment and the imbalance of the load</p><p>18:21 – Careers, trade-offs, and real-world constraints</p><p>20:01 – The “perfect storm” of modern life</p><p>21:30 – Why couples misjudge the load (130% problem)</p><p>22:20 – Systemic failure vs individual blame</p><p>23:15 – Practical ways to split responsibilities</p><p>25:05 – Letting go of perfection in parenting</p><p>26:22 – Communication, negotiation, and partnership</p><p>28:14 – The myth of the “super mum”</p><p>30:24 – Parenting differences and decision-making</p><p>31:04 – Screen time, tech, and modern challenges</p><p>33:04 – Always-on culture and mental load</p><p>35:36 – Advice to younger self: know your value</p><p>36:49 – First job, money, and early lessons</p><p><br></p><p>📩 Get in touch: info@moloapp.io</p><p>X - https://x.com/TheModernLoad_</p><p>Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/themoloapp/</p><p>LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/molo-app/</p><p>Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/people/The-MOLO-App</p><p>TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@themoloapp</p><p>YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@TheModernLoad</p>","author_name":"Sophie Bruce"}