{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/69938433989966fe08b2bda8/69938f04b1ca974bbcde2033?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"3. Why and how does school leadership today reflect an ethic of education and care? ","description":"<p><strong>As schools are increasingly forced to fill the gaps left by overstretched social services, how can headteachers balance the profound emotional labour of community care with rigid academic accountability?</strong> This episode explores how schools are operating as \"community hubs\" and safe havens, where the boundaries between education and social work have blurred, and where the primary mission often begins with the safety and wellbeing of the most vulnerable pupils.</p><p><br></p><p>To delve into this \"new reality,\" hosts Dr Mike Collins and Professor Toby Greany continue the <em>Sustainable School Leadership</em> series.</p><p><br></p><p>The conversation examines the intense \"ethical dilemma\" facing modern leaders: navigating a national policy framework that measures success through data and exam results while managing the rising complexity of Special Educational Needs and Disabilities (SEND) and the impact of the cost-of-living crisis. The panel discusses the severe risk of leader burnout when the \"emotional bucket\" is constantly drained. By comparing the systems in England and Northern Ireland, the episode highlights the urgent need for a multi-agency approach, ensuring that the heavy lifting of social care does not come at the expense of sustainable educational leadership.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Our guests in this episode:</strong>&nbsp;</p><ul><li><strong>Professor Tony Gallagher</strong>: Professor of Education at Queen’s University Belfast and an expert on the role of schools in divided and disadvantaged communities.&nbsp;</li><li><strong>Carolyn Roberts</strong>: Former Headteacher of Thomas Tallis School in Greenwich and a leading voice on ethical leadership and the \"human\" side of school management.&nbsp;</li></ul><p><br></p><p>You can find out more about the research project and its findings at&nbsp;<a href=\"https://sustainableschoolleadership.uk/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">sustainableschoolleadership.uk.</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>The&nbsp;project, and this production,&nbsp;is funded&nbsp;by the&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.ucl.ac.uk/education-research-programme/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">ESRC Education Research Programme</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>This is a&nbsp;<a href=\"https://researchpodcasts.co.uk/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Research Podcasts</a>&nbsp;production.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>You can read a transcript of the conversation&nbsp;<a href=\"https://researchpodcasts.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Sustainable-School-Leadership-S1-E3-2.pdf\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">here</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Episode Credits</strong>&nbsp;</p><p>Presenter:&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/Education/people/mike.collins\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Mike Collins</a>, University of Nottingham&nbsp;</p><p>Guests:&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/education/people/toby.greany\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Toby Greany</a>, University of Nottingham,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.qub.ac.uk/News/find-an-expert/ProfessorTonyGallagher.html\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Tony Gallagher</a>, Queen’s University Belfast,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.ptieducation.org/about/people\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Carolyn Roberts</a>, PTI&nbsp;</p><p>Producer:&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-canner/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Alex Canner</a>, Research Podcasts&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Music:&nbsp;Jahzzar&nbsp;- Leith Walk, courtesy of Free Music Archive&nbsp;</p>","author_name":"Research Podcasts "}