{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/6992f6dad6c27a06bb23eada/6adf4da38f6f9dc453c3b4ed?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Leadership When You’re Not in the Room","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/6992f6dad6c27a06bb23eada/1793018857480-c430a2cc-2b8f-47d9-9937-e5bf9445b0a5.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Jamie Dobson interviews Jon Berger about his book *What Happens When You Are Not in the Room?*, exploring how leaders shape outcomes through culture, motivation, and influence rather than presence. They also unpack practical strategy (goal, what makes it hard, and the approach), why dissent improves decisions, the difference between leadership and management, and career resilience amid AI-driven change.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Interview of the week:</strong> </p><p>Jon Berger – Leadership “when you’re not in the room,” motivation, strategy clarity, dissent, and leadership vs management.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find out more about Container Solutions:</strong></p><ul><li>Download the <u><a href=\"https://www.container-solutions.com/hs-fs/hubfs/2025%20book%20launch/9781915483799_CNA_3D%20Cover_White_Small.jpg?width=820&amp;height=1000&amp;name=9781915483799_CNA_3D%20Cover_White_Small.jpg\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Cloud Native Attitude</a></u></li><li>Download <u><a href=\"https://www.amazon.co.uk/Visionaries-Rebels-Machines-electrification-cloudification/dp/1917490070/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Visionaries, Rebels and Machines</a></u></li><li>Download <u><a href=\"https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/follow-the-money/9798341661349/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Follow the Money</a></u></li><li>Visit the <u><a href=\"https://www.container-solutions.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">website</a></u>.</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Learn more about our people:</strong></p><ul><li>Jamie Dobson: <u><a href=\"https://uk.linkedin.com/in/jamie-dobson\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">LinkedIn</a></u></li><li>Join Jamie’s <u><a href=\"https://substack.com/@jamiedobson\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Substack</a></u> </li><li>Jon Berger: <u><a href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-berger0\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">LinkedIn</a></u> | <u><a href=\"https://www.jonbergerleadership.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Website</a></u></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>If you enjoyed this episode then please either:</strong></p><ul><li>Follow, rate, and review on <u><a href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/visionaries-rebels-and-machines/id1829045240\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Apple Podcasts</a></u></li><li>Follow and rate on <u><a href=\"https://open.spotify.com/show/15bcjyezTt0epNn1sSMcIT?si=4d06d4218aa840f2\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Spotify</a></u></li><li>Watch our videos on our <u><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/@ContainerSolutionsOfficial\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">YouTube Channel!</a></u></li></ul>","author_name":"Container Solutions"}