{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/6970bc612ab571f71a38a937/69c13dde007cdcf83fbdff61?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"The boxing ring and the rollercoaster: Comic Relief & UNICEF UK","description":"<p>In Episode 4 of <em>The Quiet Revolution</em>, we step into the charity sector, a space defined by its values, public promises, and mission to do good. But what happens when that external promise collides with the messy internal reality of confronting inequality?</p><p>Host Joy Warmington explores the journeys of two household names: Comic Relief and UNICEF UK. We hear from Mabinty Esho (Head of DEIB, Comic Relief) about the grueling personal toll of leading this work as a Black woman, feeling like she is constantly stepping into a \"boxing ring\". Comic Relief CEO Samir Patel candidly discusses the fallout when the work moves from safe \"diversity\" to charged \"anti-racism,\" and how a leader holds belief when teams start to lose hope.</p><p>Finally, UNICEF UK CEO Phillip Goodwin unpacks the tightrope walk of integrity for a \"white boss\": how do you celebrate progress without dismissing the pain your staff is still experiencing?</p><p><strong>Guest Bios:</strong></p><ul><li>Mabinty Esho is the Head of Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Belonging at Comic Relief.</li><li>Samir Patel is the CEO of Comic Relief.</li><li>Dr Philip Goodwin is the Chief Executive of the UK Committee for UNICEF (UNICEF UK). Between 2015 and 2024, he was Chief Executive of VSO, a charity that brings together local, national and international volunteers to work alongside the world's most marginalised and vulnerable communities to build generational change. He was previously CEO of TREEAID, a development organisation working on agro-forestry in dryland Africa. He spent 11 years with British Council and held leadership positions in Kenya, Uganda, Pakistan and Belgium including being Regional Director for sub-Saharan Africa. Philip has been a community development volunteer in Timbuktu, Mali and a researcher on poverty issues at the Overseas Development Institute. He has a PhD and MSc in rural resource planning and environmental policy and a degree in agricultural economics.</li></ul><p><strong>In this episode, we cover:</strong></p><ul><li>The Illusion of Kumbaya: Why the naive assumption that anti-racism is just \"the right thing to do\" crumbles upon contact with reality.</li><li>The Boxing Ring: The immense personal weight placed on Global Majority staff tasked with fixing the system.</li><li>The \"White Boss\" Dilemma: The tension leaders face when trying to express pride in progress while colleagues are still suffering.</li><li>The Slow March of Progress: Why leaders must become architects of change, not just sponsors, and commit to the long haul.</li></ul><p><strong>Resources &amp; Links Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>brap Website:<a href=\"https://www.brap.org.uk\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> https://www.brap.org.uk</a></li><li>Equality Republic:<a href=\"https://www.brap.org.uk/republic\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> https://www.brap.org.uk/republic</a></li></ul><p><strong>Music Featured:</strong></p><ul><li>Melting Glass by Eden Avery</li><li>Floods</li><li>Neutral State by Blue Saga</li><li>Out the the world by Axon Terminal</li><li>Missing Memories by Christopher Moe Ditlevsen</li><li>Come to, Alan Ellis</li><li>The Great White North by Eden Avery</li><li>Hara Noda, Wood and Skin</li><li>Fauna</li></ul><p><br></p>","author_name":"brap and Joy Warmington"}