{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/6961268923ce58f14615840d/696126d53a409cca49e35b6b?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"The Upside Of Tariffs","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/6961268923ce58f14615840d/374d06b2d0324ac25aa6458e06cf6725.jpg?height=200","description":"<p>Maybe Trump doesn’t care if the economy tanks—maybe he believes he can play it all to his advantage. And maybe, through a lot of pain, this is the only way America’s going to learn its lesson.</p><p><br></p><p>Guest: <a href=\"https://substack.com/@jvlast\">Jonathan Last</a>, editor of <a href=\"https://www.thebulwark.com/\">The Bulwark</a></p><p><br></p><p>Want more What Next? Join Slate Plus to unlock full, ad-free access to What Next and all your  other favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the What Next show page on <a href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-next-daily-news-and-analysis/id1438906889\">Apple Podcasts</a> and <a href=\"https://open.spotify.com/show/7IT5Yn1zGDH1cYXh38dned\">Spotify</a>. Or, visit <a href=\"https://slate.com/podcast-plus?utm_medium=link&amp;utm_campaign=plus_pod&amp;utm_content=What_Next&amp;utm_source=episode_summary\">slate.com/whatnextplus</a> to get access wherever you listen.</p><p><br></p><p>Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, Ethan Oberman, and Rob Gunther. </p><p> </p>","author_name":"Slate Podcasts"}