{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/695ed31524334d02345bdb78/695ed33ce06ab03ba366b56a?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"After George Floyd, Abolition or Death?","description":"<p>Advocates of police reform, including President Biden, say Derek Chauvin’s conviction is a crucial step in ending racist police practices. But abolitionists say it’s too little, too late. On today’s episode of A Word, Jason Johnson speaks with Professor James D. Ward, the author of <em>Policing and Race in America: Economic, Political and Social Dynamics. </em>Ward explains why he thinks abolishing police can’t work politically, but jailing or even executing killer cops could bring real change. </p><p>Guest: Professor James D. Ward is the author of <em>Policing and Race in America: Economic, Political and Social Dynamics, </em>and<em> </em>the interim director of the Master of Public Policy program and Visiting Professor at Cal Poly.</p><p>Podcast production by Ahyiana Angel and Jasmine Ellis</p><p><em>You can skip all the ads in A Word by joining Slate Plus. Sign up now for just $1 for your first month. </em><a href=\"https://slate.com/plus?utm_medium=link&amp;utm_campaign=plus_pod&amp;utm_content=A_Word_with_Jason_Johnson&amp;utm_source=show_notes\"><em>Click here for more info</em></a><em>.</em></p><p> </p>","author_name":"Slate Podcasts"}