{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/695ead68a32e86d775858194/6aa86585eb30d8abd82b9db2?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Money Talks: The Zero-sum Mistake","description":"<p>In this Money Talks: <a href=\"https://www.fordfoundation.org/news-and-stories/big-ideas/reflections-on-democracy/for-the-people/roy-swan/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Roy Swan</a> joins <a href=\"https://www.elizabethspiers.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Elizabeth Spiers</a> to turn the assumption of a zero-sum economy on its head. Swan, the director of the Ford Foundation’s mission investments program, explains why the idea that someone has to lose in order for you to win is not just costing societally, but economically—and how positive impact and positive returns aren’t mutually exclusive. Swan’s new book is <a href=\"https://www.amazon.com/dp/1394436726?tag=slatmaga-20\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Positive Sum: How Zero-sum Thinking Broke Capitalism—and How We Can Fix It</em></a><em>.</em></p><p><br></p><p>Join Slate Plus to unlock weekly bonus episodes. Plus, you’ll access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the Slate Money show page on<a href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/slate-money/id876523888\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> Apple Podcasts</a> and<a href=\"https://open.spotify.com/show/2AgxNbNcUOckZSww9mk8mX\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> Spotify</a>. Or, visit<a href=\"https://slate.com/podcast-plus?utm_medium=link&amp;utm_campaign=plus_pod&amp;utm_content=Money&amp;utm_source=episode_summary\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> slate.com/moneyplus</a> to get access wherever you listen.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Podcast production by Jessamine Molli.</p>","author_name":"Slate Podcasts"}