In this special Lead Human episode, Jack Myers and Tim Spengler skip the guest interview and talk about what’s on their minds: classic rock, aging cultural icons, authenticity, and a workplace behavior Tim calls “smile f*cking.”
Jack reflects on the staying power of artists like Bob Dylan, Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, and the Rolling Stones, and what their longevity says about institutions, cultural identity, and the irreplaceable human role in music. From vinyl records to live performance to what it means to “wear” music as part of who we are, the conversation explores why some forms of humanity can’t be replicated by machines.
Then the conversation shifts into business and leadership, with Tim unpacking a kind of fake-nice behavior he sees more often in workplaces: smiling, agreeing, and creating good vibes in the moment—without any real intent to support the idea, decision, or person afterward. It’s a candid discussion about authenticity, conflict avoidance, and whether “fake nice” is quietly becoming a management style.
Lead Human is hosted by Jack Myers & Tim Spengler, produced by Wondir Studios (Desta Wondirad), in association with Acast.
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