{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/6910b3317728b8766c56fbeb/6960021d3b4587aaa34c0b64?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Baroque Lies & A Joyful Mess with Martin Rowson","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/6910b3317728b8766c56fbeb/1767899654022-cc5d7c6a-80b0-4f55-8a9d-2127cdf0eb2c.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>A conversation with artist Martin Rowson about his process, comedy, Ronald Searle, why we draw and the benefits of not rehearsing and podcast host Joanna Neary. </p><p>An episode about letting go of control and learning, aptly, preparation consisted solely of studying some Ronald Searle drawings and finding a Martin Rowson one. ‘WE DO THIS FOR THE SAME REASON WE TELL STORIES…’ with some grade A swears and a bleep.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>You can find related images discussed in this episode at joannaneary.com except for the Guardian cartoon which appeared in the December 13th 2025 issue. Joanna has got a print out of it somewhere but has put it somewhere special and probably won’t see it again now until another futuristic sounding date like.. 2029.</p><p><br></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>With thanks to Anna Rowson, Nick Revell and Pad Mclean.</p><p><br></p><p>Original music written and recorded by Hedluv.</p><p><br></p><p>Made with support from funding from The Arts Council England.</p>","author_name":"Joanna Neary"}