{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/68e4c0be965488b63a6987c5/6af2d72acc435bab9d1a718b?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Inbox: The People Australia Forgot | Santilla Chingaipe","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/68e4c0be965488b63a6987c5/1794299585035-344d6dd1-ec6b-4dac-b0c4-a697b884cc71.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>What did one line on a gallery label reveal about Britain’s First Fleet? How did people who resisted slavery in the Caribbean end up in Australian penal colonies? And, what happens to Australia’s founding story when you put those people back into it?</p><p>Afua Hirsch and Peter Frankopan talk to filmmaker and author Santilla Chingaipe about her book <em>Black Convicts</em>.</p><p>At the National Gallery of Victoria, Chingaipe read that people of African descent had been aboard the First Fleet. The exhibition gave her no names, so she went looking. In the ship registers she found hundreds of people whose journeys took her from Jamaica and the Cape to the Australian penal colonies. She explains what those journeys reveal about Britain’s empire and shares the words of a ten-year-old boy she found in the archive.</p><p><br></p><p>Join <strong>Legacy Plus</strong> for bonus episodes, early access, Q&amp;As, fewer adverts and more.</p><p><strong>legacy.supportingcast.fm</strong></p><p><br></p><p>00:00 - The First Fleet’s missing history</p><p>02:21 - Meet Santilla Chingaipe</p><p>03:33 - The gallery label</p><p>06:31 - Who was transported?</p><p>12:38 - The names become a pattern</p><p>14:43 - Women and the female factories</p><p>23:57 - A boy’s last words</p><p>32:01 - Following the money</p><p>34:18 - Who gets remembered?</p><p>39:28 - Where to find Black Convicts</p><p><br></p><p>Stay connected with Legacy:</p><p>Instagram: @originallegacypodcast</p><p>TikTok: @legacy_productions</p><p><br></p><p>Explore more from Peter and Afua — essays, sources, and ideas:</p><p>Substack: peterfrankopan.substack.com | afuahirsch.substack.com</p>","author_name":"Original Legacy Productions"}