{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/68dc7cef46a2532cdd8d1c23/6aa98bfe79ba7f1eccdc8ddb?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Backstage: Software Water Intensity","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/68dc7cef46a2532cdd8d1c23/1789496184189-7866028e-d9b3-44ce-b506-7ab1d4f45fe8.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Producer Chris Skipper goes Backstage with Yi Ding and Hongliu Cao, chair and co-chair of the Software Water Intensity project, to discuss the development of the standard. They explore why water is a unique sustainability challenge, how data centres and semiconductor manufacturing contribute to water use, and the complexities of measuring water withdrawal, consumption, and stress. The conversation also looks at the challenges of data availability and how SWI could turn water impact into a practical metric for making better software and infrastructure decisions.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Learn more about our people:</strong></p><ul><li>Chris Adams: <a href=\"https://au.linkedin.com/in/cmwskipper\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">LinkedIn</a> | <a href=\"https://www.sonic-futures.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Website</a></li><li>Yi Ding: <a href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/yidingpurdue/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">LinkedIn</a> | <a href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/yidingpurdue/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Website</a> | <a href=\"https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=hT1ZSUYAAAAJ&amp;hl=en\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Scholar</a></li><li>Hongliu (Leo) Cao: <a href=\"http://www.linkedin.com/in/hongliu-cao-77777997\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">LinkedIn</a> | <a href=\"https://scholar.google.fr/citations?hl=fr&amp;user=J08707gAAAAJ\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Scholar</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Find out more about the GSF:</strong></p><ul><li><a href=\"https://greensoftware.foundation/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">The Green Software Foundation Website</a>&nbsp;</li><li>Sign up to the <a href=\"https://greensoftware.foundation/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Green Software Foundation Newsletter</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href=\"https://collections.unu.edu/eserv/UNU:10445/Global_Water_Bankruptcy_Report__2026_.pdf\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Global Water Bankruptcy Report | United Nations</a> [09:50]</li><li><a href=\"https://sci.greensoftware.foundation/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Software Carbon Intensity | GSF</a> [14:43]</li><li><a href=\"https://greensoftware.foundation/standards/sci-ai/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">SCI for AI | GSF</a> [15:26]</li><li><a href=\"https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.22773\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Not All Water Consumption Is Equal: A Water Stress Weighted Metric for Sustainable Computing (SCARF Paper)</a> [18:07]</li><li><a href=\"https://caohongliu.medium.com/why-ais-water-footprint-is-harder-to-measure-than-carbon-096fc76536ad\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Why AI’s Water Footprint Is Harder to Measure Than Carbon | Hongliu Cao</a> [22:32]</li><li><a href=\"https://caohongliu.medium.com/different-clouds-different-water-stories-why-ais-water-footprint-is-harder-to-measure-part-2-e25256ba3676\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Different Clouds, Different Water Stories: Why AI’s Water Footprint Is Harder to Measure (Part 2)</a>&nbsp;</li><li><a href=\"https://greensoftware.foundation/articles/welcoming-the-software-water-handbook-as-a-gsf-project/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Welcoming the Software Water Handbook | GSF</a>&nbsp;</li><li><a href=\"https://directory.greensoftware.foundation/projects/software-water-handbook/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Software Water Handbook: A companion resource to the SWI specification | GSF</a></li><li><a href=\"https://movement.greensoftware.foundation/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Green Software Movement Platform | GSF</a> &nbsp;</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>If you enjoyed this episode then please either:</strong></p><ul><li>Follow, rate, and review on <a href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/environment-variables/id1618265745\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Apple Podcasts</a></li><li>Follow and rate on <a href=\"https://open.spotify.com/episode/0C4N7dk5p461ugjeoZGLqz\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Spotify</a></li><li>Watch our videos on The Green Software Foundation <a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj0m2KL1yQzcCbmSj7AaAoA/videos\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">YouTube Channel!</a></li><li>Connect with us on <a href=\"https://twitter.com/gsfcommunity?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Twitter</a>, <a href=\"https://github.com/Green-Software-Foundation\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Github</a> and <a href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/company/green-software-foundation/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">LinkedIn</a>!</li></ul>","author_name":"Green Software Foundation"}