On Season 3, Episode 8 of What’s The Tea with Sarah E, I sit down with my friend Cindy Chang - two-time founder, CEO of Evolve Consulting Co. and Dabbl’, host of Fearless Entrepreneurs, wife, mom, and a woman determined to rethink the future of work.
Cindy immigrated to Canada from Taiwan at five years old, growing up in an entrepreneurial family and learning early what hard work, resilience, and ambition looked like. She was also the talkative, outgoing little girl who didn’t fit the mould others expected of her - and that experience helped shape the unapologetic woman she is today.
After more than 20 years in talent and recruitment, Cindy built a successful corporate career—but becoming a mother changed everything. She found herself apologizing for having a child while trying to remain the ambitious businesswoman she had always been. When she was laid off in 2023, she finally made the mental shift from side-hustling entrepreneur to fully betting on herself.
In this raw, funny, and unapologetic conversation, we spill the tea on:
Then we get into the future of work.
Cindy gives us a front-row view of today’s employment market: layoffs, post-COVID over-hiring, an oversupply of talent, and a workplace culture that still too often forces people into outdated models.
She calls out the power imbalance between employers and employees, even describing modern hiring as an “abusive relationship” when fear, baggage, and control drive the process instead of alignment and humanity.
That frustration is exactly why she built Dabbl’—to connect experienced professionals, especially moms who have left corporate careers, with companies looking for flexible talent and meaningful support.
Because flexible work isn’t just a women’s issue.
It’s a human issue.
And maybe the answer isn’t eliminating the 9-to-5. Maybe it’s finally giving people other fucking options. Season 3, Episode 8 — Fuck the Box is streaming now on What’s The Tea with Sarah E.
Learn more at evolveconsultingco.com and dabble.ca, or connect with Cindy on Instagram and LinkedIn at @evolve_consulting_co. She says her DMs are always open!
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