Jo Morey spent two decades as an executive headhunter before finally writing the novel she'd dreamed about since childhood. In this episode, she and Nadine talk candidly about the realities of breaking into publishing later in life from the Faber Academy course and competition shortlists, to landing agent Madeleine Milburn after a single extraordinary weekend of interest. Jo opens up about writing with tinnitus and hearing loss, the research trips to Belize that shaped her novel The Night Lagoon (titled Lime Juice Money in the US), and why she now sees rejection as simply \"subjective\" rather than personal. A must-listen for anyone balancing a demanding career with a creative dream.