Lawfully Yours – Season 2, Episode 14 – Leadership, Ego and Knobs (feat. Marc Rowley)
This week on Lawfully Yours, hosts Vickki Ridgway and Geraldine Watson are joined by leadership expert Marc Rowley for a powerful and thought-provoking conversation on what it truly means to lead.
Marc brings a wealth of real-world experience to the table, sharing his journey through policing and into the world of leadership development. Together, they explore the stark contrast between good and bad leadership — unpacking the behaviours, mindsets, and habits that define each.
The conversation dives deep into the more challenging side of leadership, including the impact of narcissism, ego, and control. Marc offers honest insight into how these traits can show up in leaders, the damage they can cause, and why self-awareness is critical for anyone in a position of influence.
Vickki, Geraldine, and Marc also examine the human side of leadership — discussing how past experiences and trauma can shape decision-making, behaviours, and communication styles. It’s a candid look at why people lead the way they do, and how understanding this can transform teams, workplaces, and outcomes.
At its core, this episode is about people. From building respect and trust, to developing strong interpersonal skills, Marc highlights why great leadership isn’t about authority — it’s about connection, accountability, and consistency.
Expect honest reflections, practical insights, and the signature Lawfully Yours blend of curiosity and warmth — in an episode that challenges perceptions and redefines what it means to be a good leader.
This is a must-listen for anyone leading a team, working within one, or simply wanting to better understand the dynamics that shape how we show up for others.
Stay in touch with Marc – https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrmarcrowley/
About Lawfully Yours
Loving the ride? Lawfully Yours is your home for legal laughs, clever chats, and conversations that make the midweek a whole lot brighter. Hosted by Vickki Ridgway and Geraldine Watson, we’re here to make the law — and life — a little less stiff, and a lot more real.
Stay in touch with Vickki and Geraldine
Vickki – https://www.linkedin.com/in/vickki-ridgway-2a38b235/
Geraldine – https://www.linkedin.com/in/geraldine-watson-llb-hons-844a62a6/
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