{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/683db1fce646ff8325350252/683db208e646ff83253505c8?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"13: The Inquiry: Dr. Jayaram","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/683db1fce646ff8325350252/1789380475052-0359e74e-94f1-4edf-bc06-ecd118bc326f.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>In this episode Caroline and Liz have the evidence from Dr Ravi Jayaram. He accepted that he should have done more sooner to stop Lucy Letby from harming babies. He said he should have been braver and more courageous in speaking up, but he said his concerns initially seemed \"outlandish\".</p><p><br></p><p>He also told the Thirlwall Inquiry that after Lucy Letby was eventually moved off the ward she told him she'd be back \"whether he liked it or not.\"</p><p><br></p><p>And he said the recommendations from the inquiry into Beverley Allitt's crimes should be embedded in all medical safeguarding training.</p><p><br></p><p>The Trial of Lucy Letby is part of the Crime Desk. Press <a href=\"https://plus.thecrimedesk.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">here</a> to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes.</p><p>Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod.</p><p>Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrime</p><p>Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast</p><p>Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk</p><p>Email us&nbsp;<a href=\"mailto:thetrial@dailymail.com\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">thetrial@dailymail.com</a></p><p>WhatsApp us&nbsp;+447796657512&nbsp;(start your message with ‘Trial’)&nbsp;</p><p>Click <a href=\"https://link.news.dailymail.co.uk/join/4w5/crime-desk-sign-up\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">here</a> to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world.</p><p>Hosts: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull</p><p><br></p><p>Producer: Chelsey Ranore</p><p><br></p><p>Creative director: Caroline Cheetham</p><p><br></p><p>Executive Producer: Jamie East</p><p><br></p><p>Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini</p><p><br></p><p>A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular.</p><p>Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information</p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit<a href=\"https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href=\"https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>","author_name":"The Crime Desk"}