{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/68343e1669c98f151d8f0020/68fe8f47deee754a72b19864?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Measuring ROI and Brand Lift on Branded Podcasts with Stevie Manns","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/68343e1669c98f151d8f0020/1761512647675-3bd2d905-75f7-48f2-9d41-bfa2facf11c6.jpeg?height=200","description":"<h3>Can working for a brand truly be where the money is in podcasting, and what metrics prove the ROI?</h3><p><br></p><p>In this episode of PodBiz, Norma Jean Belenky speaks with Stevie Manns, a producer with a background in both finance and media who currently works on the branded podcast The Bid for BlackRock. Stevie shares their journey of realizing a passion for podcast production and strategy during the pandemic and how they now apply their over a decade and a half of industry experience to help brands achieve significant return on investment and exposure.</p><p><br></p><p>As Stevie puts it:</p><blockquote>\"The podcast that you’re listening to at the end of the day is the tip of the iceberg ,5,%.. and 95% of it is what you don’t see below the surface\".</blockquote><p><br></p><h3>Here are some insightful moments within the episode</h3><p>• Why working for a brand remains one of the most reliable income paths in podcasting</p><p> • How branded podcasts drive ROI through brand lift, thought leadership, and audience trust</p><p> • What metrics actually matter, from subscriber growth to consumption rate</p><p> • Why a 75 percent completion rate is “really, really good” for a branded show</p><p> • How Stevie’s transition from finance to production led to purpose-driven work</p><p> • The importance of caring deeply about your subject matter, even in complex topics</p><p> • Why understanding your limitations and collaborating with experts builds stronger shows</p><p> • How creative brand storytelling is evolving and why now is the time for bold ideas</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Stevie Manns</strong> (they/them) is a producer currently working with BlackRock on their podcast, The Bid. They have a long professional background in finance and a creative background in music and radio, which they combined to pivot into podcast production and strategy. Stevie also works on independent projects, including the Star Trek podcast Set Phasers.</p><p><br></p><p>Learn more about Stevie's work at <a href=\"http://steviemanns.com\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">http://steviemanns.com</a> </p><p><br></p><h3><strong>Episode Chapters</strong></h3><p>(00:00) Where is the money in podcasting?</p><p>(01:01) The value and ROI of a branded podcast</p><p>(03:16) The halo effect and brand lift</p><p>(04:50) Podcasts as “top of funnel” thought leadership</p><p>(05:38) ROI as a function of content need, subscribers, and consumption rate</p><p>(06:49) Defining a high consumption rate for brands</p><p>(07:22) Stevie’s unconventional path into podcasting</p><p>(09:56) The existential COVID question and realizing a passion for production</p><p>(11:43) Combining finance experience with production passion</p><p>(12:01) Independent projects, including work with a Ukrainian journalist</p><p>(14:25) The key mindset: caring about the subject matter and telling a story</p><p>(15:38) What people may not know about the producer’s role</p><p>(17:49) Advice for creators: knowing your limitations and not trying to do it all</p><p>(19:14) Thoughts on regrets and the future career path</p><p>(20:52) Excitement for industry growth, new listeners, and brand creativity</p><p>(22:57) Examples of creative brand podcasting</p><h3><br></h3><h3>Some Additional PodBiz Buzz…</h3><blockquote>“I do think there is a lot of money in working for a brand, whether it’s a corporate or whatever, but I really think that’s where it is”</blockquote><blockquote>“76% of them prioritize like thought leadership as what their podcasts will provide for you to eventually kind of think over time”</blockquote><blockquote>“You should be looking for a need and you should be filling that need.”</blockquote><blockquote>“I have a passion for the subject matter in general and trying to find a way to tell that story.”</blockquote><blockquote>“The secret to great audience development and to making a great show is labor.”</blockquote>","author_name":"Norma Jean Belenky & John Kiernan"}