{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/6825a844b1b74cbbae73d5a8/68af1b5f352b565deb621f21?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"The story of Ukraine's heroic 'Iron People' ","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/6825a844b1b74cbbae73d5a8/1756309854833-311e660b-196d-4221-9b5b-ae8bf14f60b5.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>This week, Tom and Patrick take you inside Ukraine’s railways, the country’s lifeline since the full-scale Russian invasion began. With over 20,000 kilometres of track, they’ve evacuated millions, ferried troops and supplies to the front, and turned carriages into mobile hospitals.&nbsp;At the heart of this effort is Oleksandr Pertsovski, the CEO of Ukrainian Railways, who shares how his “Iron People” have kept the nation moving under daily bombardment.&nbsp;From evacuation scenes echoing Dunkirk, to VIP trains shuttling world leaders in and out of the capital, Kyiv, this is the untold story of logistics, resilience and national pride.&nbsp;The interview was recorded in July 2025.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Guest</strong>: Oleksandr Pertsovskyi&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Hosts</strong>: Tom Newton Dunn &amp; General Sir Patrick Sanders</p><p><strong>Photo</strong>: Getty Images</p><p><strong>Get in touch: </strong><a href=\"mailto:generalandjournalist@thetimes.co.uk\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">generalandjournalist@thetimes.co.uk</a></p>","author_name":"The Times"}