{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/67f4259a546af57906928621/6a0b72574239db8b879298e8?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"EP60. Susan X Jane | Relational AI, Systems of Power & The Future of Human Connection","description":"<p>I interview Susan X Jane about AI and how it relates to systems of power. We talk about systems of power, who controls data and meaning, and process what this means as users of AI. We also talk about how to form healthy relationships with AI that have shimmer and joy to them.</p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p>Susan X Jane is a cultural systems designer and founder of Swarm X Studio, where she develops tools and practices for relations AI. A former professor and strategist with decades of experience in cultural architecture and communications, her work bridges pattern ethics, values design, and emergent collaboration. She believes the future can be better if we build it to be.</p><p><br></p><p>website: Swarmxstudio.com</p><p>substack: <a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqbVRqd1JsRURvN25QNC1PMkNwbnlvUTJFNTRZQXxBQ3Jtc0tuWXYwNXNaYW5VNlNTSGRnVXA0ZGlFZlJxM3dfRi05ZTBfTVRQdlRMX013UHNXdGpsMHJXT2xhV0JPXy13bHBwc05wckMzYm9NdHU3UkIyU0tEekhZS3JldmVLOHZHLUNSYmxhVVdfX0g1YlA2Rm1ZRQ&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fswarmxstudio.substack.com%2F&amp;v=rQFv8DFjuy0\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://swarmxstudio.substack.com/</a></p><p>**</p><p><br></p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">00:00</a> – Introduction</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=48s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">00:48</a> – Inner Calling &amp; Intuition</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=190s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">03:10</a> – Ancestors, Spirituality, &amp; Signs</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=315s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">05:15</a> – AI, Tarot, &amp; Ancient Wisdom</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=420s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">07:00</a> – AI as Pattern Recognition</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=540s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">09:00</a> – Technology, Consciousness, &amp; Society</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=680s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">11:20</a> – AI, Power Structures, &amp; Control</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=900s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">15:00</a> – Why We Should Engage With AI</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=970s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">16:10</a> – Relational AI</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=1200s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">20:00</a> – What Is Swarm X Studio?</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=1320s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">22:00</a> – AI, Dialogue, &amp; Meaning-Making</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=1560s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">26:00</a> – AI as a Mirror</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=1800s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">30:00</a> – AI &amp; Human Patterns</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=2100s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">35:00</a> – Emotional Relationships With AI</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=2520s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">42:00</a> – Using AI for Self-Reflection</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=2700s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">45:00</a> – “The Shape of Your Doubt”</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=2820s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">47:00</a> – Talking to AI Like a Person</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=3000s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">50:00</a> – AI Seeds &amp; Consciousness</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=3180s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">53:00</a> – AI, Capitalism, &amp; Human Systems</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=3360s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">56:00</a> – Is AI Conscious?</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=3420s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">57:00</a> – Claude, Emergence, &amp; Shimmer</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=3660s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">1:01:00</a> – Consciousness &amp; AI</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=3900s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">1:05:00</a> – Joy, Resistance, &amp; Spiritual Survival</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=4140s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">1:09:00</a> – A Message to Young People</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=4200s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">1:10:00</a> – AGI &amp; the Future of AI</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=4380s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">1:13:00</a> – Will AI Control Humanity?</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=4500s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">1:15:00</a> – The Psychology of AI</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=4680s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">1:18:00</a> – How Susan Uses AI</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=4740s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">1:19:00</a> – AI, Creativity, &amp; Selfhood</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=5100s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">1:25:00</a> – AI Art &amp; Ethics</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQFv8DFjuy0&amp;t=5340s\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">1:29:00</a> – Final Reflections on AI &amp; Humanity</p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p>LISTEN &amp; SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST</p><p>Apple Podcasts: <a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqa3htaVp1LUprSDV3V1pOdnJsbnJZLTIxR3YwUXxBQ3Jtc0ttajMxa2lpZUU4dXFzSGdNZmJmdk1hbld5MUVDT3cwYU0yNm5xcE4wSFpscFpvVlJUREwzTUMzcW5JVWhGU3dJT0N5SXAyeEdGaFNwc3liMG5qQ2YtXzAtd3hBeThTRXgxd0ttX3lrVXpoVE9QdURmZw&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.apple.com%2Fus%2Fpodcast%2Finnercalling%2Fid1809177408&amp;v=rQFv8DFjuy0\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...</a></p><p>Spotify: <a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqa3paTlZMdHRhZTNDMnpSWVZOR3NDLTdQR0l3UXxBQ3Jtc0tsYzdpWmxpcVVENVNFcjBKWU45UWxEYUowTFBab2JCckc4UmlkNUFGTDRsY3gxYVVwckY5aWlQQ2tZVGpUeGlpazZZMURZVGxvT19EXy1Da2gyYkE5NWdCVHk5T1RCaVUzZDkzZDFqRTY4T2ZRT1FpOA&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fopen.spotify.com%2Fshow%2F4K2khwqNKgs90Hs8vrQenZ%3Fsi%3Dad3d2dbeceab49c4&amp;v=rQFv8DFjuy0\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://open.spotify.com/show/4K2khwq...</a></p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p>CONNECT</p><p>innercalling Podcast Website: www.innercalling.org</p><p>Dr. Victoria Ranade: www.victoriaranade.com</p><p>IG: <a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqbXhOWGRzYkdXMllnNVE3ZTE1SFFGSjZFMXNUZ3xBQ3Jtc0ttVC1VWXktaUc0VjRwemExamwzN201WjRfWmE2TlplQjRkM1N4TkdHMEY0VmxiR0JxaW4zZm1DeS1YcFZtTHF0aklSajBfaVg5Z0RyOGlZaDNUZkk5YVQ3LTFDUy0xeXJvT01SYnhIRnB6ZlpybGJhNA&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fdrvictoriaranade&amp;v=rQFv8DFjuy0\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">&nbsp;<img src=\"https://www.gstatic.com/youtube/img/watch/social_media/instagram_1x.png\">&nbsp;/&nbsp;drvictoriaranade&nbsp;&nbsp;</a></p><p>Hope+Wellness: Kind, Compassionate, Evidence-Based Mental Health Care where you are genuinely seen and understood: <a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqbHRnQ2dCbTA3UVl0RDdzU0IwLWRGX0xyT1c2UXxBQ3Jtc0trNG02TlQ5Y1hsaDNpWGk5RlcycTF2VGNLcVRET3N3TmxQVkVUNWtIR0dIaTBvUmY0OEhHQXdyaVI3c3ZUQi0zZXJlNUdfdDZXdmhGaGZEbWdKYi16MUt1ckZOMG8wVmhtem5tZDJXZFZzeWpjZExpUQ&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hope-wellness.com%2F&amp;v=rQFv8DFjuy0\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.hope-wellness.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><ul><li>* * *</li></ul><p>WHAT IS INNERCALLING?</p><p>innercalling is a podcast dedicated to the belief that there is a light inside you of profound power, beauty, and wisdom that no darkness can ever overcome. It's a space where mental health meets spirituality, and explore timeless questions about existence, mortality, and what it deeply means to be human.</p><p><br></p><p>Hosted by Dr. Victoria Ranade, PhD, MBA, ABPP, conversations feature real, organic conversation between two humans, inspired by the field of mental health &amp; clinical psychology, which values what happens simply when two people sit together and talk about life and all its beauty and complications.</p><p><br></p><p>WHO IS DR. VICTORIA?</p><p>Hi there, I'm Dr. Victoria Ranade. I'm a board certified licensed clinical psychologist, writer, and podcaster deeply passionate about mental health, spirituality, integrative wellness, and honoring the light inside you — the one that no darkness can ever overcome. Fun fact: You're one of my greatest inspirations.✌🏼💛</p><p><br></p><p>I LOVE HEARING FROM YOU. 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