{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/67e2e3b05926376d2a9d0de8/6a128848a9d3d2ec146e8a79?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Fatal Second Helen with Josh Cannon","description":"<p>n this special episode we’re joined by Josh Cannon who holds a PhD in near eastern languages and civilizations from the University of Chicago. Prior to this, Josh was a member of the US Marine Corps and served in two tours of Iraq as an Arabic cryptologic linguist. We sat down with Josh to chat about his book <a href=\"https://veteransiliad.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Fatal Second Helen: A Modern Veteran’s Iliad</em></a> which brings together his lived experience of military service with the ideas that emerge from Homer’s epic poem.</p><h2><br></h2><h2>Things to listen out for</h2><ul><li>Modern versus ancient conceptions of glory</li><li>The power of translation to inspire</li><li>Connections between near eastern mythology and Homer’s Iliad</li><li>The shared stories of the Hittites and the Ionian Greeks</li><li>The way the consequences of modern warfare can help us understand the depictions of warfare in the ancient world better</li></ul><h2><br></h2><h2>Books and scholars mentioned in this interview</h2><p><em>Epic of Gilgamesh</em> - There are many translations of this epic, one of the most recent is that of <a href=\"https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/gilgamesh-new-verse-translation-simon-armitage-hero-epic/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Simon Armitage</a></p><p><br></p><h3>Translations of Homer’s <em>Iliad</em> and <em>Odyssey</em></h3><p>Robert Fagles - <a href=\"https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-iliad-penguin-classics-deluxe-edition-homer/389169003c266d3b\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>The Iliad</em></a> (1998) </p><p>Robert Fagles - <a href=\"https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/299801/the-odyssey-by-homer-translated-by-robert-fagles-introduction-and-notes-by-bernard-knox/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>The Odyssey</em></a> (1996) </p><p>Richard Lattimore - <a href=\"https://archive.org/details/the-iliad-homer-lattimore\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>The Iliad</em></a> </p><p>Stanley Lombardo - <a href=\"https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50488362-the-iliad\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>The Iliad</em></a> (1997) </p><p>Emily Wilson - <a href=\"https://www.emilyrcwilson.com/the-odyssey\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>The Odyssey</em></a> (2017) </p><p>Emily Wilson - <a href=\"https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77265004-the-iliad\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>The Iliad</em></a> (2023)</p><p>Spartan poet <a href=\"https://www.loebclassics.com/view/tyrtaeus-fragments/1999/pb_LCL258.55.xml\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Tyrtaeus</a></p><p>Bachvarova, M. R., <a href=\"https://doi.org/10.1017/CBO9781139048736\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>From Hittite to Homer: The Anatolian Background of Ancient Greek Epic</em></a> (2016, Cambridge University Press)</p><p>Carolina López-Ruiz, <a href=\"https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674049468\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>When the Gods Were Born: Greek Cosmogonies and the Near East</em></a> (Harvard University Press, 2010)</p><p>Patrick Shaw-Stewart’s untitled poem “<a href=\"https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/57324/i-saw-a-man-this-morning\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">I saw a man this morning</a>”</p><p>Jonathan Shay, <a href=\"https://archive.org/details/achillesinvietna00shay\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Achilles in Vietnam: combat trauma and the undoing of character</em></a> (2004, Scribner)</p><p>Martin West, <a href=\"https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-east-face-of-helicon-9780198152217?cc=au&amp;lang=en&amp;\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>The East Face of Helicon: West Asiatic Elements in Greek Poetry and Myth</em></a> (1999, Oxford University Press)</p>","author_name":"The Partial Historians"}