{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/679eef9190375a81fe8d4abf/6a1b856aad55909da6404eab?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"A Prison Phone Interview with Michael Fogt (\"Gunbarrels & Backroads\")!","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/679eef9190375a81fe8d4abf/1780188125664-14b7546c-f870-4bbe-bfab-c6abe69f9d23.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>I guess in the short time that I've been doing true crime episodes, it would be inevitable for me to speak to someone arrested for murder. But leave it to me to be able to get it done in 3 tries, instead of 1! Nonetheless, I found this to be a very different type of interview for me, as you would expect. Michael was as brutally honest with me in this interview as he is in his book. He is someone clearly self-aware of who he is and what he is incarcerated for. If you've seen the episode of \"Evil Lives Here\", you'll notice that he is a large man who is now confined to a wheelchair as a result of injuries and health problems. In his book, he mentions that he weighed over 300 pounds while in the Iron Horsemen and working as a mob enforcer. I thought the show was an interesting companion piece to the book. He doesn't portray himself as neither a victim or a hero, but as a man who chose violence after his own abused upbringing. (I'd love to hear your thoughts on this, Rebels.) Thank you to Mike and Jenny for this interview.</p><p>You can buy <strong>\"Gunbarrels &amp; Backroads:Shootouts, Addictions, and the Long Road to Prison\" </strong>here: <a href=\"https://tinyurl.com/2y3hou9v\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://tinyurl.com/2y3hou9v</a></p><p><br></p><p>Programming note: Catch \"Sherpa Selects\" on Saturdays. It's the episodes you tried to avoid the first time around!</p><p>Music Credits/Voiceovers: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Sherpa-lu Studio Players; Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):https://uppbeat.io/t/goods-cargo/blur</p><p>License code: SEGQXRLESQA3PHDZ</p><p>YouTube: @sherpalution5000 @sherpalution : social media for IG, Threads, &amp; TikTok (@sherpalution1);</p><p>Link pages: <a href=\"https://linktr.ee/sherpalution\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://linktr.ee/sherpalution</a> ,<a href=\"https://chirp.me/sherpalution\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> https://chirp.me/sherpalution</a></p><p>Here's our website: <a href=\"https://shows.acast.com/the-sherpas-podcast-picks\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://shows.acast.com/the-sherpas-podcast-picks</a></p><p>Email:jimthepodcastsherpa@gmail.com</p><p>Support:Review the show on Apple Podcasts or Spotify</p>","author_name":"Jim the Podcast Sherpa"}