{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/679c3267811ecd43a9f19b7a/67ef73d49a447abd78c5ac50?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Who watches the Watchmen?: Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons' Watchmen ","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/679c3267811ecd43a9f19b7a/1744485270979-67d8412f-0a74-4e00-b662-0e2283ae57c1.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Quis custodiet ipsos custodes, wrote the Roman poet Juvenal two thousand years ago. And just in case your Latin isn’t up to scratch, we’ll translate it for you: Who watches the watchmen? That line provided inspiration to Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons’ <em>Watchmen</em> - arguably the first graphic novel to join the ranks of classic literature.</p><p><br></p><p>Published as a stand-alone comic in twelve issues between 1986 and 1987, and compiled later that year, <em>Watchmen</em> did for comics what Sergeant Pepper’s did for pop music, legitimising them as a serious artform in the eyes of many.<em> Watchmen</em> is influenced by Friedrich Nietzsche, Thomas Pynchon and Jorge Luis Borges as much as Superman and Batman.</p><p><br></p><p>It tells the story of a group of morally-dubious, has-been superheroes, who are being picked off one-by-one by a mysterious killer against the backdrop of nuclear threat. These are the ‘watchmen’ of the title, but - as the quote from Juvenal suggests - pity the society that is looked after by these guys. Sure, they fight crime, but they also commit a lot of it - and even they aren’t sure if the world is a better place for their existence.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>While the book isn’t short on action, its characters also discuss philosophy, analyse the history of the comic as an art-form and engage in commercial ventures to capitalise on their own story.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Some time ago, when TIME Magazine listed the 100 most important books of the past century, <em>Watchmen</em> was on the list, wedged somewhere between <em>Lolita</em> and <em>Things Fall Apart </em>(in this case you really do have the watch the watchmen because one of the people responsible for the list and, in particular, for Watchmen’s inclusion, was Sophie’s husband Lev).&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>To discuss the book, Sophie and Jonty are joined by Andy Miller - writer, performer and one-half of the power duo behind the brilliant Backlisted podcast. In fact, when we asked Andy to come on the show and what book he wanted to do, <em>Watchmen</em> was the first thing he said.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, Andy, Sophie and Jonty discuss how <em>Watchmen</em> predicted the 21st Century, changed the shape of comics and literature, and why Alan Moore can’t stand the term&nbsp;</p><p>‘graphic novel’.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>BOOKS REFERRED:&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Watchmen (1986-7) by Alan Moore</p><p>Providence (2015-17) by Alan Moore</p><p>Jerusalem (2016) by Alan Moore</p><p>Maus: A Survivor’s Tale (1991) by Art Spiegelman&nbsp;</p><p>The Dark Knight Returns (1986) by Frank Miller&nbsp;</p><p>American Psycho (1991) by Bret Easton Ellis&nbsp;</p><p>Paradise Lost (1667) by John Milton&nbsp;</p><p>Tristram Shandy (1767) by Laurence Sterne</p><p>The Prisoner (TV series) (1967-8)</p><p>Revelations In the Wink of An Eye (2024) by Jeffrey Lewis&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>-- To join the Secret Life of Books Club visit: www.secretlifeofbooks.org</p><p>-- Please support us on Patreon to keep the lights on in the SLoB studio and get bonus content: patreon.com/secretlifeofbookspodcast</p><p>-- Follow us on our socials:</p><p>youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@secretlifeofbookspodcast/shorts</p><p>insta: https://www.instagram.com/secretlifeofbookspodcast/</p><p>bluesky: @slobpodcast.bsky.social</p><p><br></p><p><br></p>","author_name":"Sophie Gee and Jonty Claypole"}