* This episode was recorded in March 2026, prior to Prime Minister Andy Burnham's announcement to the House of Commons that he intended to legislate to resolve IPPs before the end of the current parliament.
Dr. Lisa Smith is a Chartered and Registered Forensic Psychologist and she leads the HMPPS Indeterminate Sentence Prisoner (ISP) team for psychology services. Her work focuses on providing advice and guidance across HMPPS on psychological services for complex and indeterminate sentence prisoners, including those serving Imprisonment for Public Protection (IPP) sentences. She has recently completed her doctoral thesis titled Understanding the Barriers to Progression of Imprisonment for Public Protection (IPP) Sentenced Prisoners: An Exploratory Qualitative Study. Her research involved in-depth interviews with individuals serving IPP sentences, HMPPS staff and Parole Board members, offering insights into the systemic and psychological challenges affecting IPP progression.
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The Forensic Psychology Podcast is a co-production between HM Prison and Probation Service and the Prison Radio Association charity.
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