{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/677f3ca2172a299f3199e450/6a021f5d6304701dd84ad42a?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Holistic Marketing","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/677f3ca2172a299f3199e450/1778523215397-87fbc570-c04a-40ad-b003-1a0a4e75850c.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Every few years, someone slaps a new name on the same old thing — and suddenly there's a conference, a certification, and software to go with it. Is account-based marketing actually a discipline, or is it just marketing with a better LinkedIn bio? And if you can't describe what you do without a subgenre, is the subgenre helping you — or just hiding the ball?</p><p><br></p><p><a href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurakdodds/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Laura Dodds</a> is a digital marketing and demand generation leader and problem-solver-for-hire. She's back on Cover Brand after her breakout run on the <em>On Brand with Jimmy Fallon</em> series for a proper shop talk: the practitioner-level debate about what actually moves the needle in marketing versus what's just posturing dressed up in a framework. The episode covers the proliferation of marketing subgenres, when a new name is genuinely useful versus just tree-peeing, and why starting with the goal and the customer will always beat starting with the system.</p><h3><br></h3><h3>Main Topics Covered</h3><ul><li><strong>Cover song: \"Happier Than Ever\" (Loveless cover of Billie Eilish)</strong> — Laura's thesis: every song is better as a pop punk cover. Ethan is skeptical. The jury remains out.</li><li><strong>What Laura actually does</strong> — why she resists a tidy job description, and what \"marketing problem solver\" looks like in practice</li><li><strong>The case against marketing subgenres</strong> — ABM, growth hacking, lifecycle marketing, demand gen: are these real disciplines or just old ideas in new clothes?</li><li><strong>When a new name is actually worth it</strong> — shopper marketing, digital marketing, and the cases where the label earns its keep</li><li><strong>Why marketers keep inventing subgenres</strong> — vendors, academics, analysts, and the very human need to pee on a tree</li><li><strong>Laws vs. Levers at Applied Brand Science</strong> — how to separate what's always true from what depends on your situation</li><li><strong>Holistic marketing, TM</strong> — Laura coins a term live on mic, immediately regrets it, and Ethan leans right in</li></ul><h3><br></h3><h3>Additional Resources</h3><ul><li><strong>Laura Dodds</strong> —<a href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurakdodds/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> LinkedIn</a> <em>(search Laura Dodds, Houston TX)</em></li><li><strong>Cover Brand Covers Playlist on Spotify</strong> —<a href=\"https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6h4QzTqrtn9DIAPvdn1iCI?si=a8GqPlxYQXm_L9Am1OXCvQ\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> Listen here</a></li><li><strong>Cover Brand: <em>On Brand</em> with Jimmy Fallon series</strong> — search the Cover Brand feed</li></ul><h3><br></h3><p>The framework isn't the strategy — it's just someone else's tree. Start with the goal. Start with the customer. Everything else is a lever.</p><p>Subscribe to Cover Brand wherever you get your podcasts, share it with the colleague who just forwarded you a deck full of ABM jargon, and go deeper at<a href=\"https://appliedbrandscience.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> <strong>appliedbrandscience.com</strong></a>.</p><p><br></p><p><em>Produced by</em><a href=\"https://bicurean.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em> BiCurean.com</em></a></p>","author_name":"Ethan Decker"}