{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/677f3ca2172a299f3199e450/69ab98997036d739022fcab0?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Start With What","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/677f3ca2172a299f3199e450/1772853749618-face4507-0607-4108-82b8-2373aae2da05.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>How do you focus a brand when your expertise could help almost anyone?</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode of <strong>Cover Brand</strong>, Ethan Decker talks with <a href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/chelseaburns26/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Chelsea Burns</a>, founder of The Marketing Psychologist, about the early-stage challenge of narrowing a brand’s target audience and defining its core offering.</p><p><br></p><p>Chelsea’s business blends psychology with ethical branding and marketing, helping organizations build trust-based relationships with customers. But after a promising first year in business, she faces a familiar founder problem: too many potential audiences and too many possible services.</p><p><br></p><p>Ethan shares practical brand science principles for finding focus, including why entrepreneurs underestimate their current market opportunity, why choosing a target often feels arbitrary at first, and why clarity usually comes from talking to customers rather than theorizing internally.</p><p><br></p><p>Listeners will also hear the origin stories of MailChimp and Nike as examples of how brands often discover their true direction through real market activity rather than perfect upfront strategy.</p><p><br></p><p>If you’re building a consulting business, launching a new brand, or refining your positioning, this episode offers grounded advice for moving from broad capability to clear focus.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><h2>Main Topics</h2><ul><li>Ethical branding and the idea of marketing without manipulation</li><li>The early-stage challenge of <strong>focus</strong> for new consulting businesses</li><li>Why trying to serve too many audiences complicates brand positioning</li><li>The “inside the bottle” problem founders face with their own brands</li><li>Underestimating opportunity within your current market</li><li>The importance of talking directly to customers for brand clarity</li><li>MailChimp’s origin story and accidental product success</li><li>Nike’s evolution from Blue Ribbon Sports to a global brand</li><li>Aligning <strong>target audience, offering, and messaging</strong></li></ul><h2><br></h2><h2>Links &amp; References</h2><ul><li><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRxoQOFLWbU\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Sick Puppies – <em>Say My Name</em></a> (cover of Destiny’s Child)</li><li>Cover Brand Spotify Playlist – featuring songs mentioned on the podcast</li><li>The Marketing Psychologist –<a href=\"https://themarketingpsychologist.co\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> </a><a href=\"https://www.the-marketing-psychologist.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.the-marketing-psychologist.com/</a></li><li>MailChimp – example brand origin story discussed in the episode</li><li>Nike / Blue Ribbon Sports history referenced in the conversation</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>Produced by </em><a href=\"https://www.bicurean.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>BiCurean.com</em></a></p>","author_name":"Ethan Decker"}