Sandy Garossino and Vina Nadjibulla are having conversations about the fragility of power in the 21st century.
And that became even truer after the U.S. election that will return Donald Trump to the presidency in January 2025.
Episode six is aptly titled, Trump and the Post-American World. Sandy and Vina talk about which world powers
will lose and which will gain in the Trump presidency.
“I think if Ukraine is probably the biggest loser, European Union would be the second biggest loser from this
election because President Trump has shown a lot of hostility towards the European Union and the concept of a
\\united Europe and has no interest to deal with Brussels and EU as a bloc. He prefers to work bilaterally with
certain European leaders like the president of Hungary,” Vina said.
The U.S. and the EU have decades of political and cultural cooperation and the largest bilateral trade and
investment relationship in the world.
“I think a lot will depend on whether or not Europe is able to unite in the way that the French president is now
saying, well, if it's America first, then we also need to have Europe first approach,” she said.