{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/66f706c02750688fd03c72b5/6a8b7a9f20cb324b7717e9a5?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"E79: I Support Women’s Wrongs - Fandom and Readers Hate Unlikeable Women","description":"<p><strong>Show Notes:</strong></p><p><br></p><p><em>I don’t have to like her, I understand her.</em></p><p><br></p><p>Adrie and Stitch tackle the \"unlikable female character\" discourse head-on, tracing how fandom, publishing, and film consistently punish women and female characters for the exact same flaws that make male anti-heroes and rough heroes beloved. Drawing on academic work — from A.W. Wheaton's concept of the \"rough hero\" to Adriana Clavel-Vázquez's writing on rough heroines and imaginative resistance — they dig into why audiences eagerly forgive murderers, rapists, and misogynists (Quagmire, Hannibal, Cyril, Lestat) while turning on women for being confident, passive, horny, traumatized, or simply present (Rhaenyra, Skyler White, Julia from Cowboy Bebop, Shuri). The conversation ranges from Jane Austen's Emma to Tyler Perry's Acrimony, from Game of Thrones fandom's selective outrage to K-drama villainesses, landing on the same conclusion every time: \"I support women's rights\" often stops right where \"and wrongs\" begins.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Topics:</strong> unlikable female characters, rough heroes, anti-heroes, fandom double standards, protagonists, racialized double standards in fandom, Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon, Hannibal, Cowboy Bebop, Marvel/MCU, K-drama, webtoons, villainesses, misogyny in pop culture, feminist media analysis, women’s wrongs</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Reading Recommendations:</strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Fiction:</strong></p><ul><li>The Raven Scholar by Antonia Hodgson</li><li>The Remarried Empress by Alphatart</li><li>Shards of a Broken Glass Slipper&nbsp;</li><li>The Returned C-Rank Tank Won’t Die</li><li>For My Derelict Favorite</li><li>My Engagement Was Called Off Under False Accusations, but Who Ever Said My Face Was Ugly Beneath the Mask? By En Nekogawa with illustrations by Neneko Kobato</li><li>Daughter of No Worlds by Carissa Broadbent</li><li>Famine (The Four Horseman #3) by Laura Thalassa</li><li>Charmed &amp; Dangerous (Bronwyn the Witch #1) by Candace Havens</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Film &amp; TV</strong></p><ul><li>Jessica Jones (MCU)</li><li>Marry My Husband (Korean and Japanese live action on Amazon Prime Video)</li><li>Malcolm in the Middle</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Non-Fiction:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Unlikeable Female Characters: The Women Pop Culture Wants You To Hate by Anna Bogutskaya</strong></li><li>Sugar and Spice, and Everything Nice: What Rough Heroines Tell Us about Imaginative Resistance by ADRIANA CLAVEL-VAZQUEZ</li><li>Misanthropes and Monsters: Writing the Unlikeable by PJ MALLETT</li><li>Rough Heroes of the New Hollywood by A. W. Eaton</li><li>“<a href=\"https://t.umblr.com/redirect?z=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.anathemamag.com%2Fjessica-jones-doesnt-care-about-men-of-colour&amp;t=NWNlMTc3ZjQ1OTVlMjU0OTA2MGIwNDNiN2QxNDNkOWQxMDY5NTY3YyxVNGZzVERDOQ%3D%3D&amp;b=t%3AgbTgyyTzTr0Zw3rtlvvpVw&amp;p=http%3A%2F%2Fstitchmediamix.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F173174312339%2Fnon-fiction-jessica-jones-doesnt-care-about-men&amp;m=0\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Jessica Jones Doesn’t Care About Men of Colour</a>”&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li>Strangers: A Memoir of Marriage by Belle Burden</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow &amp; Support:</strong></p><p>Follow us on <a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/pagesandprejudicepod?igsh=YnlpbGRvYjdzNTg5\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Instagram</a>.</p><p>Send inquiries to <a href=\"mailto:pagesandprejudicepod@gmail.com\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">pagesandprejudicepod@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Buy merch on <a href=\"https://pagesandprejudice.threadless.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Threadless</a> or<a href=\"https://www.patreon.com/cw/PagesandPrejudice\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> become a Patron</a> to support the show!</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Hosted by:</strong></p><p>adrie rose (@adrierising on bsky, twitter, instagram, &amp; tiktok)</p><p>Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Music: </strong><a href=\"https://www.silvermansound.com/free-music/holy-moly\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠</strong></a><strong> by Shane Ivers</strong></p>","author_name":"Adrie Rose, Stitch"}