{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/66d9fe2a29a27e3167446863/681d9c05365a6906d35881c7?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Callous Daoboys' Carson Pace: Getting sober, the joy of being challenged and hating concept albums","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/66d9fe2a29a27e3167446863/1746770838255-23185247-806f-48aa-83ea-f10e67df659d.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Welcome to episode number 33 of Kerrang! In Conversation.</p><p><br></p><p>This week K! Editor Luke Morton is joined by Carson Pace from The Callous Daoboys. Calling from his home in Atlanta after a lengthy tour, the vocalist looks ahead to new album I Don’t Want To See You In Heaven, while taking time to reflect on the bands that made him and why he really hates concept records.</p><p><br></p><p>Carson also dives into his sober journey, the personal events that fed into the record, why he constantly wants to challenge himself and the listener, and more.</p><p><br></p><p>Subscribe now so you never miss an episode. And make sure to check out our previous interviews with Bob Mould, Devin Townsend, Dani Filth and more.</p><p><br></p><p>Get Kerrang! magazine:&nbsp;<a href=\"https://kerrang.newsstand.co.uk/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://kerrang.newsstand.co.uk/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Produced by Alex Gold.</p>","author_name":"Kerrang!"}