{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/66d2fd0dc5079dde6185fb74/699789214c238f5dca77a36d?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"The Book Behind The Film Nuremberg (2025): 'The Nazi and the Psychiatrist' (2013 Book) with Author & Speaker Jack El-Hai","description":"<h2><strong>Inside the mind of a Nazi—and the psychiatrist who studied him.</strong></h2><p><br></p><p>In this powerful episode of <em>Review It Yourself</em>, Sean sits down with acclaimed author and journalist <strong>Jack El-Hai</strong> to discuss his gripping and deeply researched book, <strong>The Nazi and the Psychiatrist</strong>.</p><p>This is not just another Second World War/World War II book review. It’s a psychological investigation into evil, power, ego, and moral reckoning at the aftermath of history’s darkest chapter.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><h2>A Psychological Duel at Nuremberg</h2><p>In <em>The Nazi and the Psychiatrist</em>, Jack El-Hai explores the extraordinary relationship between <strong>Hermann Goering</strong>, the highest-ranking Nazi captured alive, and <strong>Douglas M. Kelley</strong>, the U.S. Army psychiatrist tasked with evaluating him during the Nuremberg Trials.</p><p><br></p><p>During our conversation, we unpack:</p><ul><li>How Kelley psychologically assessed leading Nazi defendants</li><li>Why Goering fascinated and manipulated those around him</li><li>The concept of the “banality of evil” in practice</li><li>The absence of a single psychiatric diagnosis to explain atrocity</li><li>The moral and professional toll the Nuremberg experience took on Kelley</li><li>Why these questions still resonate today</li></ul><p>Jack reveals how Kelley’s pioneering psychological work challenged simplistic narratives about madness and evil — and how America struggled to process the uncomfortable conclusions.</p><h2><br></h2><h2>Why <em>The Nazi and the Psychiatrist</em> Matters Now</h2><p>With the upcoming 2025 film <em>Nuremberg</em> renewing interest in this story, El-Hai’s book has never been more relevant.</p><p>In a world still grappling with extremism, ideology, and the psychology of power, this episode asks:</p><ul><li>Are monsters born—or made?</li><li>Can ordinary individuals commit extraordinary evil?</li><li>What responsibility does psychology bear in interpreting history?</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br></p><h2>About Our Guest: Jack El-Hai</h2><p><strong>Jack El-Hai</strong> is an award-winning author and journalist specialising in narrative non-fiction, medical history, crime, and ethics.</p><p><br></p><h3>📘 Featured Book</h3><p><strong>The Nazi and the Psychiatrist: Hermann Goering, Dr. Douglas M. Kelley, and a Fatal Meeting of Minds</strong></p><p>Originally published in 2013, the book examines the psychological chess match between Goering and Kelley — and its tragic aftermath.</p><p><br></p><h3>🔎 Learn More &amp; Connect</h3><p>🌐 Website: https://www.jackelhai.com</p><p>🐦 Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/jackelhai</p><p>Jack also discusses his ongoing commitment to telling stories rooted in justice, ethics, and the darker corners of history.</p><p>If you’re interested in World War II history, the Nuremberg Trials, forensic psychology, or the moral complexity of historical biography, this book is essential reading.</p><p><br></p><h2>Why You Should Listen to This Episode</h2><p>This episode of <em>Review It Yourself</em> delivers:</p><ul><li>A thoughtful, in-depth author interview</li><li>Insight into the psychology of Nazi leadership</li><li>Historical analysis grounded in primary research</li><li>A discussion on how history is interpreted — and misinterpreted</li><li>Reflection on how the past informs our present</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Perfect for listeners interested in:</p><p>World War II history</p><p>Holocaust studies</p><p>Nuremberg Trials</p><p>Psychology and ethics</p><p>Historical biographies</p><p><br></p><h1>Follow, Contact &amp; Support Review It Yourself</h1><p>If you value independent, honest book and film reviews without corporate spin:</p><p>🎙️ <strong>Subscribe</strong> on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, and all major platforms</p><p>⭐ <strong>Leave a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts</strong> — it helps more than you know</p><p>📧 Email the show: reviewityourselfpodcast@gmail.com</p><p>📲 Follow <em>Review It Yourself</em> on your favourite social media platform</p><p>Find us here:&nbsp;</p><ul><li>Instagram: reviewityourselfpodcast2021</li><li>Twitter/X: @YourselfReview</li><li>Threads: reviewityourselfpodcast2021</li><li>BlueSky: @reviewityourself.bsky.social‬</li></ul><p><br></p><h2>Support the Podcast</h2><p><em>Review It Yourself</em> is proudly independent.</p><p>You can support the show by:</p><p>🔁 Sharing this episode with fellow film, history and psychology enthusiasts</p><p>📝 Leaving a written review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify</p><p>Your support keeps independent podcasting alive.</p><p><br></p><p>Listen now to this compelling discussion with Jack El-Hai — and decide for yourself what <em>The Nazi and the Psychiatrist</em> reveals about evil, responsibility, and the human condition.</p>","author_name":"Review It Yourself"}