{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/66a7865521900db7d7f9ae06/6a34e96d4a8189f2c39a635f?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Who are the incrementalists? with Dana R. Fisher","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/66a7865521900db7d7f9ae06/1781852519836-4bbea0c9-4273-4b7d-ad28-4c673ba3403d.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Break the system, don’t just tweak it. That’s what sociologist and professor Dana R. Fisher says on this week’s Climate Curious. Tune in with co-host Maryam Pasha to learn about incrementalists: people who think cleaning up a broken system leads to a sanitised version of the status quo –&nbsp;not real systemic change. From how institutions have used and jaded the youth movement for optics, whilst leaving them disconnected after crackdowns on college campus protests, this apocalyptic optimist shares the most likely path forward. Recorded at TED 2026.</p><p><br></p><p>Dana’s book is here: <a href=\"https://cup.columbia.edu/book/saving-ourselves/9780231557870/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Saving Ourselves</a>,</p><p><br></p><p>Check out her <a href=\"https://go.ted.com/danarfisher\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">TED Talk</a> and her new pod <a href=\"https://cece.american.edu/explore/apocalyptic-optimist-podcast/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Apocalyptic Optimist Podcast</a>!</p><p><br></p><p>Join the Climate Curious conversation on socials: </p><p>Instagram: <a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/climatecuriouspod/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.instagram.com/climatecuriouspod/</a></p><p>TikTok: <a href=\"https://www.tiktok.com/@climatecuriouspod\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.tiktok.com/@climatecuriouspod</a> </p><p>YouTube: <a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtF6xzNkVIczlDmVcH8FCMA\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtF6xzNkVIczlDmVcH8FCMA</a> </p><p>LinkedIn: <a href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/company/10996041/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.linkedin.com/company/10996041/</a></p><p>Facebook: <a href=\"https://www.facebook.com/TEDxLondon\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.facebook.com/TEDxLondon</a> </p><p>Website: <a href=\"https://tedxlondon.com/podcast/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://tedxlondon.com/podcast/</a> </p><p>All other links: <a href=\"https://linktr.ee/climatecuriouspod\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://linktr.ee/climatecuriouspod</a>&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Created by TEDxLondon</p><p>Executive produced by Josie Colter</p><p>Produced by Ben Beheshty</p><p>Curated by Deesha Chandra</p><p>Hosted by Maryam Pasha and Ben Hurst</p><p>Communications by Tara Cooper and Issey Gladston</p><p><br></p><p><br></p>","author_name":"TEDxLondon"}