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In this episode, I'm talking with Joey Irwin, Co-Founder of Kyra Law, an AI-native law firm for startups. Joey shares his journey from Linklaters and Monzo to spending a year experimenting with AI and building the foundations of a new legal business.
We explore how Kyra combines AI agents, shared institutional knowledge and experienced lawyers to deliver legal services with upfront fees and responsive communication. Joey explains how the firm captures each client’s preferences, checks work before it leaves the business, and uses automation to create more space for judgment, relationships and flexible working.
We also discuss winning clients, moving towards more complex work, and why the most useful question lawyers can ask about AI is: how will this improve my client’s experience?
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:00 What is an AI-native law firm?
04:00 Training programme
06:19 Upfront fees, responsiveness and better client communication
09:38 Inside Kyra: AI agents and a second brain for clients
16:37 Quality control, governance and client data
20:14 Building the platform and taking on more complex work
22:56 Joey’s journey from Linklaters and Monzo to Kyra
24:37 A year of vibe coding and building without external funding
28:58 Winning clients and earning repeat business
31:46 The admin iceberg: automation, judgment and strategy
32:42 Making legal work more enjoyable and flexible
35:17 AI skills, agents and putting clients first
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