{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/663109c2cff31b0012ae91dc/674c59e1d67d53d9b311482c?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"088: Complex isn't the same as complicated","description":"<p>\"We often give building a house as an example of something in the complicated sphere. But then we talked in recent episodes about the nightmare build of the Sydney Opera House – that was complex, but people were treating it like it was complicated. What's the difference? What makes one complicated and one complex? Is it a sliding scale from one to the other? How do you know which realm you're in?\"</p><p><br></p><p>This broad question comes up a lot when people encounter complexity.</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Hello again, Cynefin</li><li>The phase shift from complicated to complex</li><li>You're not \"in\" any domain: instead, you decompose a project or situation into smaller chunks, distribute those chunks into domains, and then you can use applicable methods</li><li>Then your job is to move those chunks from one domain to another – like constraining something complex and unpredictable so you can make it more predictable <em>for you</em></li><li>Estimating Complexity by Liz Keogh: <em>have you done this before?</em></li><li>Light switches vs electricity substations vs energy markets vs power failures.</li><li>Fun with etymology</li><li>\"An aeroplane is complicated; a mayonnaise is complex\"</li><li>The role of connectedness</li><li>Global warming and a social ice age</li><li>Many folks are intuitively good at handling complexity without knowing all the words and that's OK</li><li>Processes and procedures to make things less unpredictable ... until they stop working</li><li>Methods to achieve the liminal complex to complicated phase shift</li><li>A Simon Wardley example of waste in an organisation</li><li>The surface layer of a thing is not necessarily everything that thing does</li><li>Boeing and the slip over the cliff from Clear to Chaos</li><li>Chesterton's aeroplane seat</li><li>Seeds vs Soil</li><li>The liminal complicated zone where experts disagree and people have Opinions.</li><li>If there's disagreement about an element of a project, decompose it until the disagreement goes away</li><li>Is there always a level of decomposition where you stop disagreeing? </li><li>Football example ... </li><li>Jefferson Fisher's courtroom example ...</li><li>The move into <em>Aporia</em> and the EU Field Guide for Managing Complexity</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Linky Goodness</strong></p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href=\"https://cynefin.io/wiki/Cynefin\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Cynefin</a></li><li><a href=\"https://lizkeogh.com/2013/07/21/estimating-complexity/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Estimating Complexity</a></li><li>Seeds vs Soil –&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/78k81681498dl0cxse69y/Focus-Seeds-vs-Soil-Front.png?rlkey=smnm5jggpbvy25u4fnacg86mb&amp;dl=0\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">front</a> | <a href=\"https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/cm92ixb36e5jk2gbxx4ph/Focus-Seeds-vs-Soil-Back.png?rlkey=i6hf5nvz2anbwrshrz0cl5dy8&amp;dl=0\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">back</a></li><li><a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/jefferson_fisher/?hl=en\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Jefferson Fisher</a></li><li><a href=\"https://op.europa.eu/en/publication-detail/-/publication/712438d0-8c55-11eb-b85c-01aa75ed71a1/language-en\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">EU Field Guide for Managing Complexity</a></li></ul><p><br></p>","author_name":"Tom Kerwin and Corissa Nunn"}