In this episode of Nine Keys and Co., Narinder Bazen sits down with death workers and artists Meghan Allynn Johnson and Rebecca Lopez-Mullins for a contemplative and unfiltered conversation about the modern death doula movement, comfort aesthetics, marketing, grief culture, trauma, and the growing pressure to make death look clean, palatable, and consumable.
Together, they explore what gets erased when death work is flattened into soft branding, who becomes invisible inside “good death” narratives, and why death work must remain spacious enough to hold uncertainty, violence, beauty, mystery, and collective grief.
This conversation touches on culture work, systems, art, care, and the ungovernable nature of death itself.
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