FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions.
In this episode: art school toxicity - the responsibilities of raising children - hiding behind a smile - giving birth - deserving pleasure.
Recorded on 30 October 2024, Schuur, Haarlem.
(01:48) Emmy [°1988 - USA] asks musician Sarah about the red threads in all the interviews of FOR REAL so far.
(4:07) Anonymous: \"I went to art school and I was in the year with a rapist. Everybody excused that guy. Teachers only going to the bar with the men, sniffing coke together. People say to you: \"Oh, but you can really see it was made by a women\". And then you think it must be me, my art is not good enough. I am running an art space now, trying to do the exact opposite of what I was taught in art school.\"
(08:05) Lilly [NL] \"What responsibilities lie on your shoulders? Is that in the first place I am a mom. I have two beautiful daughters (...) what I try to do in raising them is to make them strong and resilient. Show them that they really have to be themselves.\"
(14:08) Anonymous: \"I had a fight at work where I was treated very unjustly. I told it to my therapist. And she said: 'are you aware you are telling me this with a huge smile?' It's something a lot of women do. It's probably because it is safer to be friendly all the time than to be angry\".
(17:05) Sil: \"I felt very much how much the world at the moment needs women. There is so much we can do and a man can not.\" E.g. on the privilege of giving birth to children. \"We are lucky to be a woman. I feel that every day.\"
(20:59) Robin: \"I deserve pleasure. And this is difficult for me, because when I was born, the doctor did not see a willie so he said \"it's a girl\". I'm 33 now and a couple of years ago I came to realise that that small sentence trapped me. I think, people are worried for my happiness. That's an experience that you feel at ease with yourself. Joy beyond the labels. I think that's what we all deserve.\"
For each episode of FOR REAL, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).
Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-
Music & interviews: Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery, George Dumitriu
Sound engineer: Hayden Hook
Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte
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